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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You really do not understand the difference between levels of government. Either that or the world in which you inhabit is not the same one the rest of us do. Until you accept that states can do one thing and the feds can do another and one does provide or disprove the worth of the other, then you are lost here and will continue to flail in the waters with nobody to save you. Nobody can answer your question. Its silly and nonsensical and there is not logic to it.
    Do I need to speak slower, it isn't about the difference between levels of govt. It is all about collective bargaining rights for unions. What is preventing the Federal Public Unions from getting the same rights as Wisconsin Public unions have?

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    I have no idea. Do you have access to the floor debates held at that time which led to the passage of the laws? That could answer your question for you. Or not. I suspect not.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    I suggest you do some better research but just like with other issues you really don't have a clue. Federal Public Union employees have reduced collective bargaining rights
    Some of them do, but the vast majority of them retain their collective bargaining rights.

    Why is it that you people are perfectly fine with corporations having unlimted access to politicians, yet you cannot stand for the public worker to have a say in negotiating their employment contracts.

    When did our American values become so perverted?
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Some of them do, but the vast majority of them retain their collective bargaining rights.

    Why is it that you people are perfectly fine with corporations having unlimted access to politicians, yet you cannot stand for the public worker to have a say in negotiating their employment contracts.

    When did our American values become so perverted?
    Vast majority of who retain their collective bargaining rights? You really don't know what collective bargaining rights Federal Employees have, do you?

    As for corporations having access to politicians they are doing it with earned money and not taxpayer dollars. Apparently you don't know the difference either.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Some of them do, but the vast majority of them retain their collective bargaining rights.
    No, they did not. Federal employees do not have collective bargaining rights for wages or benefits. They can bargain work rules, safety, etc. That's it. Google, DD, Google.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    No, they did not. Federal employees do not have collective bargaining rights for wages or benefits. They can bargain work rules, safety, etc. That's it. Google, DD, Google.
    And Walker isn't even taking away the collective bargaining rights for Unions on wages.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    Vast majority of who retain their collective bargaining rights? You really don't know what collective bargaining rights Federal Employees have, do you?

    As for corporations having access to politicians they are doing it with earned money and not taxpayer dollars. Apparently you don't know the difference either.
    Actually, con...its you who don't know what you are talking about with Federal public employees....probably because you are simply reciting information that you are getting from FauxNews. That is their talking point, but it is completely false. Do a little research. Most federal employees are unionized and have collective bargaining rights. There are a few, for example, air traffic controllers, who had their rights signed away by Ronald Reagan.

    As for your second point, public employees unions are not operated with tax dollars. They are operated by money paid into it by their members. So by your rationale, public employees shouldn't be able to spend their money on their own choosing because they are paid with by tax dollars, right? That's silly circular reasoning.

    Its a sad day in America when multi-billion dollar corporations can buy a politician and the average worker has his/her voice to negotiate in their own salary contract usurped by the government. And you people wonder why we question your perverted values.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Thank you President Obama for that heartfelt explanation.
    where's obama's comfie clogs?

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    There is nothing here to get. You righties somehow have swallowed this false premise that the existince of rights on one level somehow casts doubt that the rights do not exist on a different level. Or is it the other way around.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    disneydude;1059319741]Actually, con...its you who don't know what you are talking about with Federal public employees....probably because you are simply reciting information that you are getting from FauxNews. That is their talking point, but it is completely false. Do a little research. Most federal employees are unionized and have collective bargaining rights. There are a few, for example, air traffic controllers, who had their rights signed away by Ronald Reagan.
    So anyone that confuses you with facts watches Fox News? Maggie answered your question but obviously being a liberal gives you the right to ignore the response.

    As for your second point, public employees unions are not operated with tax dollars. They are operated by money paid into it by their members. So by your rationale, public employees shouldn't be able to spend their money on their own choosing because they are paid with by tax dollars, right? That's silly circular reasoning.
    Brilliant, where do the employees get the money that they use to pay union dues? You don't see a conflict of interest there? Of course not, you live in Disneyland.


    Its a sad day in America when multi-billion dollar corporations can buy a politician and the average worker has his/her voice to negotiate in their own salary contract usurped by the government. And you people wonder why we question your perverted values.
    Spoken like the true liberal you are. wonder why liberals like you want to keep union employees dependent?

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