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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    So, the worker warfare is working? Protect the rich, demonize those evil teachers, and do nothing that will actually help the deficits. Good move.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The corporations have decided to throw their big money at the party that doesn't buck them. The unions represent the working class, us, we the people. They are the last line of defense against complete corporate control.
    Oh wow! Major change. Instead of consistently supporting democrats for 20 years, now corporations are throwing more of their money in the opposite direction. I guess we'll see what the future holds.

    And, I've shown you that the picture has changed from what it was during the last 20 years. We finally have a government willing to challenge corporate welfare and it is reflected in all the big corporate money going to the GOP rather than to those standing up to them.
    Bull****. Why do you think prescription drug companies support Obama's HC bill? Or why is it that GE and Apple and Facebook and Google have shelled out billions to support the democrats? Is that what you call standing up to corporations?

    Do you have a strawman factory you are running there. Why do you keep changing the points I make?
    YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT A STRAWMAN FALLACY IS! I'm not changing your points; I'm directly responding to them.

    It's like I'm debating a brick wall here.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    In fact, they negotiate with the very people they put in office. Sweet deal. Incestuous bull****.
    Yet...you think it is completely fine for corporations to buy our congressmen? Wow...
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Yet...you think it is completely fine for corporations to buy our congressmen? Wow...
    Rich is good. Working folks want a free ride. The jerks.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post
    In other words, you vote for the corporatist status quo.
    I go with the side the corporations hate the most. Guess who that is?


    Do you even know what a strawman fallacy is?
    Yes, and you frequently give me examples to remind me.


    I'm 99.9% sure you're wrong about Reagan's spending.
    Which spending bills did Ray-gun veto?


    And finally, you're a fool if you think that Carter's energy programs were somehow going to magically cure us of our oil dependence. Every president since Nixon has promised to get us off foreign oil and ever since Nixon our dependence on foreign oil has only increased.
    KInd of hard to rate their progress since Ray-gun scrapped them. However, they had begun to work during the 4 years before Ray-gun scrapped them. We would have had 3 decades to develop alternatives and three decades of concerted conservation efforts could have prevented our need to go to war in the ME and to help prepare us for what the military is now warning us about happening in this decade, wold peak oil.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Yet...you think it is completely fine for corporations to buy our congressmen? Wow...
    Everybody's buying our Congressmen!!! And who in the world said that was fine? You? Certainly not me, DD.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post
    Oh wow! Major change. Instead of consistently supporting democrats for 20 years, now corporations are throwing more of their money in the opposite direction. I guess we'll see what the future holds.

    Bull****. Why do you think prescription drug companies support Obama's HC bill? Or why is it that GE and Apple and Facebook and Google have shelled out billions to support the democrats? Is that what you call standing up to corporations?
    Again, follow the big money in 2010 and see where it went, that's the side I am against.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Everybody's buying our Congressmen!!! And who in the world said that was fine? You? Certainly not me, DD.
    That's essentially what you are saying. Its fine for the corporations to be able to spend all kinds of money influencing our elected officials, yet people such as yourself freak out at the idea that the working people actually have a voice in negotiating their own work contracts.

    When did our American values become so perverted?
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I go with the side the corporations hate the most. Guess who that is?
    So, you were a republican for the last 20 years? By the way, which corporations?




    Yes, and you frequently give me examples to remind me.
    Name a single strawman I've created.

    Which spending bills did Ray-gun veto?
    That's irrelevant to the point. You claimed he spent more than all other presidents before him combined and to date, no one has yet out-matched Reagan. I don't deny the first part of that claim, but I highly doubt the second part.

    KInd of hard to rate their progress since Ray-gun scrapped them. However, they had begun to work during the 4 years before Ray-gun scrapped them. We would have had 3 decades to develop alternatives and three decades of concerted conservation efforts could have prevented our need to go to war in the ME and to help prepare us for what the military is now warning us about happening in this decade, wold peak oil.
    They've been warning us about peak oil since the 1970s! And if you don't know the true numbers behind the progress, then your assertion is based entirely on faith. Since the vast majority of renewable energy sources are not doing a lick of difference to our oil consumption, I strongly suggest you rethink that assertion.

    I would submit that you put way too little stock in the importance of leadership.
    I put more stock in the people's ability to change society for the better. You, on the other hand, appear to deify leaders and follow them wherever they may lead you.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You reposted the link remember?
    no, i didn't

    i posted the cnn link to yesterday's gub assn blowup over medicaid's expansion

    you told me it was the financial times link that "didn't work"

    you really don't know what's going on

    maybe you should LINK more often yourself

    that'd force you to READ up on what's happening around you

    y'know, here in the TWENTY FIRST CENTURY

    LOL!
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