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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Noticed again your typical hatred for corporations which employ people and pay dividends to shareholders as well as give millions to charities. Public unions on the other hand never negotiate with the people that pay their salaries. any tax cut for business comes off the revenue and profits they make so how does that affect you. Public unions take taxpayer money and spend it on candidates that support union causes which is to keep their members dependent.
    In fact, they negotiate with the very people they put in office. Sweet deal. Incestuous bull****.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post
    What is popular is not always right and vice versa. You obviously vote for the bandwagon.
    I vote for the lesser of two evils regardless of party.

    No, but my assertion that you live in fantasyland is backed by your ridiculous claims that Reagan's spending has yet to be matched (both GWB and Obama far exceeded Reagan's spending habits) and Reagan ruined our chances of energy independence. The last comment was by far the most bogus of them all
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    Again with a strawman, What I said was no president has increased the National debt more than all the presidents before him combined, except Ray-gun. And if Reagan had not scrapped Carter's energy programs we would be not be fighting wars for oil in the ME today.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Uh, yeah, so what? The overwhelming numbers in the House could have prevented spending bills from even getting to the Senate thus any debt Reagan created was supported by the Congress including the overwhelming Democrat House. How did Reagan create that debt by himself with such large Democrat numbers in the House?
    With his signature.


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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    i thought you said the link didn't work

    LOL!
    You reposted the link remember? Your second posted link worked.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    With his signature.
    Right, he signed the bills and those bills added 1.7 trillion to the debt in 8 years. How many trillions did Obama add in two years?

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I vote for the lesser of two evils regardless of party.
    In other words, you vote for the corporatist status quo.

    Again with a strawman, What I said was no president has increased the National debt more than all the presidents before him combined, except Ray-gun. And if Reagan had not scrapped Carter's energy programs we would be not be fighting wars for oil in the ME today.
    Do you even know what a strawman fallacy is? I'm 99.9% sure you're wrong about Reagan's spending. And finally, you're a fool if you think that Carter's energy programs were somehow going to magically cure us of our oil dependence. Every president since Nixon has promised to get us off foreign oil and ever since Nixon our dependence on foreign oil has only increased.

    You put way too much stock in the ability of one man to do great things.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Uh, yeah, so what? The overwhelming numbers in the House could have prevented spending bills from even getting to the Senate thus any debt Reagan created was supported by the Congress including the overwhelming Democrat House. How did Reagan create that debt by himself with such large Democrat numbers in the House?
    Which spending bills did the Republican controlled Senate disapprove. Which spending bills did Reagan veto?
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Which spending bills did the Republican controlled Senate disapprove. Which spending bills did Reagan veto?
    It doesn't matter, does it? The debt is there for all to see, just like the Obama debt. Why the outrage over 1.7 trillion and none towards the 3.5 trillion Obama has added? Anyway what does that have to do with the thread topic. Reagan probably pissed you off because he fired the Air Traffic Controllers which was the right thing to do. I am still waiting for you to explain to us all why state public unions have more collective bargaining rights than Federal Public unions. What has Obama done to change the policy that prevents Federal Public union employees from certain collective bargaining rights?

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post
    corporations and unions = special interests.
    The corporations have decided to throw their big money at the party that doesn't buck them. The unions represent the working class, us, we the people. They are the last line of defense against complete corporate control.



    You're only reflecting on one statistic that details a single year. I've given you a stat that illustrates two decades worth of lobbying information.
    And, I've shown you that the picture has changed from what it was during the last 20 years. We finally have a government willing to challenge corporate welfare and it is reflected in all the big corporate money going to the GOP rather than to those standing up to them.


    It all depends on market forces. A degree doesn't automatically entitle you to the rights of a job. And the subject in WI is not exclusively about educators.
    Do you have a strawman factory you are running there. Why do you keep changing the points I make?
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