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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I am guessing there is no info contained to back up your claim that our public servants are being overpaid.
    guessing?

    LOL!

    it's not mine, and it's not a claim

    it's ft's REPORT

    public pensions at the state level alone face a TWO POINT FIVE TRILLION DOLLAR shortfall

    and that's not even accounting for MEDICAID, which is what's got the GOVERNOR'S ASSN so grumpy this week

    Medicaid funding busts governors' budgets - Feb. 28, 2011

    obamacare expands this ghetto of health care---with no funding

    you really don't know what's going on around you, too stuck in the class wars of the eighties

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    Reagan and the Republican congress increased the National debt more than all the presidents before him, combined. A record still unmatched by any president or Congress since.

    And Ray-gun dismantled our energy independence programs that would have had us free from dependence on foreign oil today.
    Don't you ever get tired of being proven wrong. Democrats controlled the House the entire Reagan term and that is where the spending bills start. You really should stop while behind.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Give us your explanation of why the middle class is fast becoming as extent as the dodo bird (Raphus cucullatus) prof.
    1) more people are becoming wealthy

    2) the lower classes have more kids

    3) government handouts have sapped ambition and desire from many

    4) and your claim is pretty hysterically hyperbolic



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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    he's a tool. there is no denying that the politicians who bargain with the public sector unions are not representing AND ONLY representing the interests of the taxpayers. In areas where Pub Sec Unions are powerful, there is no doubt that the areas tend to have a fair amount of dems in elected and appointed office.

    the fact remains that when my father (who was CEO of a company that once was full of steel workers) and his vp of labor and counsel negotiated terms with the steel workers, his only interest was in what was best for the owners of that company.

    if a politician is a recipient of pub sector support he is not bargaining purely for the tax payer


    How is that any different than under "Citizens united" corporations are now free to spend unlimited funds in the political arena. If a politicians is a recipient of corporate support, is he bargaining purely for the tax payer?
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    How is that any different than under "Citizens united" corporations are now free to spend unlimited funds in the political arena. If a politicians is a recipient of corporate support, is he bargaining purely for the tax payer?
    in a free society, corporations ought to be able to spend all they want. corporations aren not directly competing against the interests of taxpayers. public unions are.



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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    in a free society, corporations ought to be able to spend all they want. corporations aren not directly competing against the interests of taxpayers. public unions are.
    Nice weasling there. So in your mind, its ok for politicians to becomes tools of the corporatists, but god forbid that a politician become tools of the workers.
    Sometimes you guys are simply too much....LOL
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post
    You've said nothing that would indicate you want a change of government that does not cater to massive entities and special interest groups.
    Massive entities and special interest groups? Are you talking about we the people?

    You're fine with the corporatist structure, I see. And I did not say 7 out of 10 is marginal, I said the difference in funding is quite marginal. Massive corporations that you apparently despise are still giving dozens of millions of dollars to the political party that you support. And as I've argued, republicans may take the cake in 2010, but the past 20 years has seen democrats as the leading political prostitutes.
    The liberals received $94.1 M and the Conservatives received $190 M. Is that what you call marginal? If you remove the Unions from the picture than all of the big money goes to the GOP.

    We're already living in a one-party system.
    Than why was all of the big corporate money in 2010 going to support one side?

    Then you haven't been paying attention. If you believe six-figure salaries for police, firefighters, garbage men, and school administrators is "adequate," then we'll have to agree to disagree.
    The average income for Wisconsin educators which includes administrators is $75,000 (and that amount includes benefits). I am only counting five figures.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post

    You really do live in a fantasy world, don't you?
    Says the guy who votes for candidates that have no chance of winning.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Nice weasling there. So in your mind, its ok for politicians to becomes tools of the corporatists, but god forbid that a politician become tools of the workers.
    Sometimes you guys are simply too much....LOL
    you don't get it do you

    corporations are not created with tax payer money and we are not forced to deal with or fund corporations



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