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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Even if you are right - and I strongly can say you are not right - look at the strategy now. Destroy the unions. So what are we left with? Corporate America taking us on the Road to Serfdom.
    This is the government not corporate America Democrats in Wisconsin will cost state money and will cause layoffs.

    Walker's budget address to outline sharp cuts - JSOnline

    Meanwhile, Walker said Democrats need to return by Tuesday and pass the repair bill or time would run out on a deal to delay payment of $165 million in state debt to solve the budget problems this year and avoid up to 1,500 layoffs. Democrats denied that, offering a different plan that they said would avoid layoffs.

    "Now they have one day to return to work before the state loses out on the chance to refinance debt, saving taxpayers $165 million this fiscal year," Walker spokesman Cullen Werwie said. "Failure to return to work and cast their votes will lead to more painful and aggressive spending cuts in the very near future."

    Werwie said Walker was giving the Democrats 24-hour notice. He added that the governor will delay sending out layoff notices "as long as possible."

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    There is no doubt about it. If the right wing corporatists combine with the anti-government crowd - its going to be very very bad for America unless we an stop this and stop it now.
    You mean bad for democrats

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    The dems don't put taxpayers or the good of the nation first.
    that's why they created legions of dependent bots to vote dem while their manufacture of teat sucklers degrades the nation
    That is such a packaged, farse of a statement. You couldn't squeeze any more rhetoric into it if you had a news show on Fox. Here's how easy it is to counter that:

    The republicans create their little bots to vote for them while getting paid nothing to live in a trailer park. Come on man, you're better than that, right? You can debate without mindless rhetoric.
    Ted Cruz is the dumbest person alive.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Do you even understand what trickle down economics is?
    Judging by your description below, I understand it much better than you do.

    I'm in the trucking business. When I needed a tire replaced, or fixed, I would call a guy that has his own tire service business and pay him $80 a wheel to take care of it, for me. Since The Messiah killed the oilfield, I have to do my own tire work, because I can't afford to pay that tire man to do it for me. That's $80 he doesn't have in his pocket, anymore.

    One of my trailers blew an airbag last week. A few years ago, I would have sent my driver to the shop and paid $200 in labor to get it fixed; that's trickle down economics. Now, I have to keep that $200 in my pocket and fix it myself.

    Before The Messiah killed the oilfield, the oil companies had to call on me to haul their equipment, because they're in the oil business, not the trucking business. When they called me, I got paid. I had to pay drivers to drive the trucks and I paid them. That's trickle down economics.
    Nothing you just stated has the slightest thing to do with trickle down economics, but it does help explain why you vote against your own interest.

    Here is a link to learn about trickle down economics.



    PS: Heres a link for what you thought was trickle down Economics.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post
    Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2010 | OpenSecrets

    Let me try one more time. YOU'RE WRONG. Read the link. The top ten donors or "heavy hitters" supplied billions to both parties, but tilted democrat in ALL the top ten entities except TWO, which tilted evenly to both sides. The majority of the top ten were not just tilting a little bit towards the democrats, they were tilting A LOT. It figures. The moral and political agenda of a democrat uses far more governmental interventionist powers than the republican. And big business or a big union LOVES an interventionist central government.
    Your link does not give separate data for the year 2010 which is what my statement was about.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    robbery involves the taking of property through the threat or use of violence
    LOL! So you do not consider theft to be robbery? I understand now why you are a conservative.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    of course they would be-Wisconsin has far less of the groups that tend to drag achievement scores down.

    its not the teachers,its the demographics
    Thank you, someone was claiming it was the teachers.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's just plain silly

    the rich pay far too much of the taxes

    but you have a point--in the long run subsidizing the middle and lower classes is sapping them of ambition just as in the long run affirmative action hurts its recipients
    LOL! Great platform! Oh the 2012 election is going to be fun!
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    no one can prove tax hikes have helped the country either. given that there is no evidence either way, freedom dictates taxing less
    At least we have a correlation with progressive taxes, you have nothing to support the regressive tax cuts.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    Why not replace Obama with Grayson as President? Get rid of Obama he is doing nothing for working people.

    Just read these two articles on the economy and you'll see how he is just another Republican who is practicing Reaganomics!

    "Second-lowest US wage gain in three decades"
    "The Obama administration is spearheading the attack on wages and benefits. It gave the initial impetus by imposing a 50 percent cut in the wages of newly hired auto workers as part of its rescue of General Motors and Chrysler in 2009. It continues to foster high unemployment by rejecting any government hiring programs and refusing to provide aid to state and local governments that are responding to huge budget deficits by slashing jobs and cutting public employee wages, benefits and pensions."

    Second-lowest US wage gain in three decades

    "Obama’s jobs fraud"
    "The attempt to portray an unabashedly pro-corporate agenda as a “jobs program” is also designed to obscure the fact that the Obama administration has pursued a deliberate policy of maintaining high unemployment as a means of forcing workers to accept wage cuts and other concessions. From the beginning of his term in office, Obama has rejected any government hiring program and the administration has now put an end to even the limited “stimulus” measures adopted early on."

    Obama?s jobs fraud
    I will agree that Obama is no liberal as the right seems to think he is. It seems the conservatives (most anyway) have moved so far to the right, they and some liberals think Obama is a far left liberal. It is funny but that seems to be the perception.
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