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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What would you call it?
    robbery involves the taking of property through the threat or use of violence



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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    One was from 2005, two were from 2009. They all show Wisconsin is rated higher than the national average. Let's see your "more updated" rankings that show differently?
    of course they would be-Wisconsin has far less of the groups that tend to drag achievement scores down.

    its not the teachers,its the demographics



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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    do you realize this could be over TODAY if the governor would drop the union busting tactics, and negotiate in good faith? he has already been told the unions are willing to make the concessions he seeks....this is a 'crisis' of his own making, all he is seeking to do is break the unions/hurt the democratic party....the whole 'more debt' is a smokescreen to hide his true intentions.
    republicans should bust unions if they can. Unions are a tool of the democratic party busting such tools is sound politically



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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The new census data backs that up -

    "The gap between the wealthiest Americans and middle- and working-class Americans has more than tripled in the past three decades, according to a June 25 report by the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.

    New data show that the gaps in after-tax income between the richest 1 percent of Americans and the middle and poorest parts of the population in 2007 was the highest it's been in 80 years, while the share of income going to the middle one-fifth of Americans shrank to its lowest level ever.

    The CBPP report attributes the widening of this gap partly to Bush Administration tax cuts, which primarily benefited the wealthy. Of the $1.7 trillion in tax cuts taxpayers received through 2008, high-income households received by far the largest -- not only in amount but also as a percentage of income -- which shifted the concentration of after-tax income toward the top of the spectrum."
    Income Gap Between Rich and Poor Is Highest in Decades, Data Show
    the lower classes need to work more, breed less and stay in school.

    the economy has changed and being big and dumb won't allow one to get good wages anymore.



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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That was Dick Cheney's pat answer as well.




    By tax and economic policies that favor the rich and penalize the middle class such as what is happening in Wisconsin today.
    that's just plain silly

    the rich pay far too much of the taxes

    but you have a point--in the long run subsidizing the middle and lower classes is sapping them of ambition just as in the long run affirmative action hurts its recipients



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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    A return to the progressive taxes that served the country so well during the 50 year period when we had the best economy with the least debt for the most Americans.
    yet you cannot prove that the confiscatory top rates were responsible for a prosperity mainly caused by the US being the only surviving industrial power after the WWII. you also fail to understand or explain that the top 1 percent didn't carry near the load of the federal income tax.

    screwing the rich for the good of the underclass might appeal to people like you but its dishonest and improper



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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yeah, that's probably why most of the big corporate money went to the GOP candidates in 2010, right?
    who did they go to in 2008? Corporations tend to back those they expect to have to deal with after the election is over



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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I have read the history, and I lived through it. Where is the causation, or even a correlation, that shows tax cuts to the wealthy have improved our economy since they were slashed 30 years ago?
    no one can prove tax hikes have helped the country either. given that there is no evidence either way, freedom dictates taxing less



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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Why not replace Obama with Grayson as President? Get rid of Obama he is doing nothing for working people.

    Just read these two articles on the economy and you'll see how he is just another Republican who is practicing Reaganomics!

    "Second-lowest US wage gain in three decades"
    "The Obama administration is spearheading the attack on wages and benefits. It gave the initial impetus by imposing a 50 percent cut in the wages of newly hired auto workers as part of its rescue of General Motors and Chrysler in 2009. It continues to foster high unemployment by rejecting any government hiring programs and refusing to provide aid to state and local governments that are responding to huge budget deficits by slashing jobs and cutting public employee wages, benefits and pensions."

    Second-lowest US wage gain in three decades

    "Obama’s jobs fraud"
    "The attempt to portray an unabashedly pro-corporate agenda as a “jobs program” is also designed to obscure the fact that the Obama administration has pursued a deliberate policy of maintaining high unemployment as a means of forcing workers to accept wage cuts and other concessions. From the beginning of his term in office, Obama has rejected any government hiring program and the administration has now put an end to even the limited “stimulus” measures adopted early on."

    Obama?s jobs fraud

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    Why not replace Obama with Grayson as President? Get rid of Obama he is doing nothing for working people.

    Just read these two articles on the economy and you'll see how he is just another Republican who is practicing Reaganomics!

    "Second-lowest US wage gain in three decades"
    "The Obama administration is spearheading the attack on wages and benefits. It gave the initial impetus by imposing a 50 percent cut in the wages of newly hired auto workers as part of its rescue of General Motors and Chrysler in 2009. It continues to foster high unemployment by rejecting any government hiring programs and refusing to provide aid to state and local governments that are responding to huge budget deficits by slashing jobs and cutting public employee wages, benefits and pensions."

    Second-lowest US wage gain in three decades

    "Obama’s jobs fraud"
    "The attempt to portray an unabashedly pro-corporate agenda as a “jobs program” is also designed to obscure the fact that the Obama administration has pursued a deliberate policy of maintaining high unemployment as a means of forcing workers to accept wage cuts and other concessions. From the beginning of his term in office, Obama has rejected any government hiring program and the administration has now put an end to even the limited “stimulus” measures adopted early on."

    Obama?s jobs fraud
    You don't have a clue what Reaganomics is. Interesting how many so called experts about Reagan probably weren't old enough during the 80's to know anything about Reagan other than what some leftwing website tells them.

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