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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Speaking of Barack Obama.....he's proposed freezing the pay of all Federal workers...and, guess what? He doesn't even need the union's okay. Now that's funny. Maybe he read FDR's biography.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Such a feeble attempt at derailing a thread kinda makes a person wonder why.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    Understand that quite well but that wasn't the question. Because they are allowed to do different things doesn't answer the question raised. Keep diverting.
    But that is the answer.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Such a feeble attempt at derailing a thread kinda makes a person wonder why.
    When I start talkin' about broccoli, you can start calling it a feeble attempt.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Such a feeble attempt at derailing a thread kinda makes a person wonder why.
    I suspect we could come up with a reasonable explanation.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    No, actually, they negotiated to have better pensions because those representing taxpayers at the bargaining table gave away the store to line their campaign coffers and keep themselves in office.

    In the real world, people work 52 weeks a year. BA degree national average: $56,000. Business work days? 260; Wisconsin teachers? 190 work days. $56,000 adjusted means teachers are making the equivalent of $68,400.
    Lets see the source of your figures? I have already posted 2003 census data that showed the national average for those with comparable education ranged from $55,000 to $74,000 (before benefits) and that was in 2003! And you do not know any teachers if you think they stop working at the end of their contract day.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    But that is the answer.

    The existence of one situation does not negate the absence of the other situation. They are completely unrelated as they are two different levels of government.
    There is absolutely nothing that prevents Presidents from proposing collective bargaining rights for Federal Public Union employees and the fact that none have including Obama is quite telling. Seems those that want a big central govt. like you want to cherrypick that that massive federal govt. does or doesn't do. Neither Presidents or Congress has proposed collective bargaining for Federal Public unions. You don't seem to have a problem with that just like you ignore that states HAVE to balance their budgets whereas the Federal Govt. doesn't. States cannot print money.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    There is absolutely nothing that prevents Presidents from proposing collective bargaining rights for Federal Public Union employees and the fact that none have including Obama is quite telling. Seems those that want a big central govt. like you want to cherrypick that that massive federal govt. does or doesn't do. Neither Presidents or Congress has proposed collective bargaining for Federal Public unions. You don't seem to have a problem with that just like you ignore that states HAVE to balance their budgets whereas the Federal Govt. doesn't. States cannot print money.
    You obviously have very little respect for our system of Federalism... either that or you just do not understand it.

    You are badly spinning your wheels trying vainly to create an issue of linkage where it simply does not exist for the reasons that have already been explained to you.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    You make no sense. How about you compare the governors salary to school admistration salary like the school superintendents

    Local school superintendents average $130,000 - JSOnline

    Public school districts in southeastern Wisconsin reported paying their top leaders an average salary of nearly $130,000 in the 2009-'10 school year
    OK, but as someone said, it doesn't matter because everyone above the working man isn't included


    A master's degree and licensure as a school principal are prerequisites to licensure as a superintendent.

    Completion of a master's degree with a grade point average of 3.5 or above (4.0 scale).

    Superintendent of Schools Specialist Certificate
    Though most superintendents (and a good many principals) I know have a PhD.


    The Wisconsin governor's annual salary is $137,092 plus benefits.

    Current Wisconsin governor - Scott Walker's (R) education
    ...attended college for four years, earning a grade point average in the C's. He did not complete a degree...


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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You obviously have very little respect for our system of Federalism... either that or you just do not understand it.

    You are badly spinning your wheels trying vainly to create an issue of linkage where it simply does not exist for the reasons that have already been explained to you.
    Unbelievable, you cannot even be honest on this issue, tell me why the Federal Govt. doesn't give the Federal Public unions the same rights as those demanded in the states? There is nothing that prevents the Federal Govt to do that other than logic and common sense which most liberals seem to lack. When you figure out why the Federal Govt. doesn't allow it then just maybe you will understand why many are against the state pubic unions having those rights. Conflict of interest seems to only matter on certain issues in your world.

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