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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    You are welcome. I really think all of us here have to start refusing to lie down for such insults. This has to stop Hopeand stop now.
    Hopefully, you, Randel, and others will heed your own advice and stop with the personal attacks as well. It works both ways. I will try to set the standard but will not take the personal attacks from anyone.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Despite promises from union leaders that they'd accept his proposal that government workers pay higher pension and health insurance contributions, Walker said, “over the past two weeks, even after they’ve made those promises, we’ve seen local union after local union rush to their school boards, their city councils... and rush through contracts that had no contribution to the pensions and no contribution to health care. In one case, in Janesville, they were actually pushing through a pay increase.”
    Liars. Walker shows no sign of conceding in Wis. battle - Meet the Press - msnbc.com
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    Fo all interested in actual facts about comparing public to private employees in Wisconsin

    http://www.cows.org/pdf/bp-WIpublics...mpensation.pdf
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Fo all interested in actual facts about comparing public to private employees in Wisconsin

    http://www.cows.org/pdf/bp-WIpublics...mpensation.pdf
    This piece says there is that the public pension system in Wisconsin is fiscally sound. The truth is there is a $137 million shortfall this year. I'm sure the rest of the piece is just as accurate.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    most conservatives don't want people to be in poverty because that condition is what the rich dems use to justify the income redistribution they tap into to gain wealth and power. Most of us on the right realize that the handouts dem masters use to buy votes are deleterious to America and most americans in the long run
    What a load of horse dung that is, there is income redistribution, but it's going in the opposite direction. If conservatives cared they would do something about it, but they would do something about it.


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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    This piece says there is that the public pension system in Wisconsin is fiscally sound. The truth is there is a $137 million shortfall this year. I'm sure the rest of the piece is just as accurate.
    The study presented their data. Where is yours?
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    What a load of horse dung that is, there is income redistribution, but it's going in the opposite direction. If conservatives cared they would do something about it, but they would do something about it.
    Unlike you, conservatives believe it is personal responsibility to take care of yourself and to show initiative and drive thus not needing someone else to bargain for you. Good employees don't need unions and will succeed on their own. The only redistribution going on is with liberalism who wants to keep people dependent by giving them more from the taxes that come from those that are actually paying them. It is the conservatives that don't really care how much you make. Can you say the same things about liberal elites?

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The study presented their data. Where is yours?
    Where is yours that Public Unions are entitled to collective bargaining rights that Federal Public Service unions do not get?

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so what
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Unlike you, conservatives believe it is personal responsibility to take care of yourself and to show initiative and drive thus not needing someone else to bargain for you. Good employees don't need unions and will succeed on their own. The only redistribution going on is with liberalism who wants to keep people dependent by giving them more from the taxes that come from those that are actually paying them. It is the conservatives that don't really care how much you make. Can you say the same things about liberal elites?
    Baloney Conservative. I am willing to bet a good deal of money that you personally hire and employ people to do lots of things for you. You hire people to do things for you that you do not have the skill, education or expertise to do yourself. You hire people you need to do things for you that you cannot or will not do for yourself. You do that all the time.

    That is what workers are doing in getting a labor union to look our for their behalf. No more- no less.
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