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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    "The Office of Tax Analysis of the United States Department of the Treasury summarized the (1981) tax changes as follows[2]:

    phased-in 23% cut in individual tax rates over 3 years; top rate dropped from 70% to 50%

    accelerated depreciation deductions; replaced depreciation system with ACRS

    indexed individual income tax parameters (beginning in 1985)

    created 10% exclusion on income for two-earner married couples ($3,000 cap)

    phased-in increase in estate tax exemption from $175,625 to $600,000 in 1987

    reduced Windfall Profit taxes

    allowed all working taxpayers to establish IRAs

    expanded provisions for employee stock ownership plans (ESOPs)

    replaced $200 interest exclusion with 15% net interest exclusion ($900 cap) (begin in 1985)"

    Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    So your position is that 38% > 70%? And that's not even counting all the other tax cuts provided to the wealthy.
    What the hell are you babbling about now, I posted the actual percentage of the taxes collected by the Federal Govt. I don't give a damn about percentages, the govt. doesn't spend percentages, they spend actual dollars. The numbers are for 2009 with the Bush tax cuts in effect, 47% of income earners don't pay any Federal Income taxes and all of them are in come levels of 50,000 or less. That destroys your argument.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the only hate i see comes from rich democrats who loathe the thought of the poor becoming less dependent on the government or the middle class becoming wealthy.

    half of my closest friends(club) are millionaires, the other half are mostly blue collar friends from the gun and sportsmens club. no one rich I know hate the middle class and none of my hourly wages buddies think that either. what both groups tend to dislike are rich libs who whine about the plight of the poor while scheming to keep them that way
    See, what you did here, though: you started complaining about the poor living off the rich; when this conversation was about teachers, fire fighters, and other public workers.

    You think of working people like these in same you think of the mythological welfare mamas.

    Stephen Fincher - 8th district TN - received $3.2 million in farm subsidies over the past decade. Now, he's getting $174,000 + tax-payer funded healthcare + $320,000 a year in farm subsidies. That means he's going to get $494,000 a year in farm subsidies.

    Again, Walker gets paid $137,500 / year to be governor. I don't see him sacrificing anything. I don't see Fincher sacrificing anything.

    Teachers, cops, and fire fighters have to sacrifice so the wealthy welfare queens (like all the companies that get no-bid contracts from the Pentagon, for example) can continue to suckle the government teat. The welfare queens on Central Park West (and in the House of Representatives) cost you and I a lot more tax dollars than the ones in the projects. I'm just tired of people thinking the poor are their enemy - especially the working poor - when there's someone making millions off our tax dollars just because they can shake the right hand. If we can take care of those welfare queens first, I'll join your crusade against the few poor people who exploit the system.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Those figures say NOTHING about the supposed difference between the 91% tax rated cited by many and your claim of a far different effective rate that was actually paid. YOU HAVE NEVER PRESENTED ANYTHING TO SUPPORT YOUR CLAIM.

    NEVER.

    So can you do it now for all of us to see or is this just another case of your mouth writing checks that the rest of you cannot cash with actual evidence?

    Silly question - I know. You have never been able to do it and will not be able to do it now.
    frantic response

    the top one percent pay more of the fit burden now than before

    time for people like you to pay your fair share



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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    See, what you did here, though: you started complaining about the poor living off the rich; when this conversation was about teachers, fire fighters, and other public workers.

    You think of working people like these in same you think of the mythological welfare mamas.

    Stephen Fincher - 8th district TN - received $3.2 million in farm subsidies over the past decade. Now, he's getting $174,000 + tax-payer funded healthcare + $320,000 a year in farm subsidies. That means he's going to get $494,000 a year in farm subsidies.

    Again, Walker gets paid $137,500 / year to be governor. I don't see him sacrificing anything. I don't see Fincher sacrificing anything.

    Teachers, cops, and fire fighters have to sacrifice so the wealthy welfare queens (like all the companies that get no-bid contracts from the Pentagon, for example) can continue to suckle the government teat. The welfare queens on Central Park West (and in the House of Representatives) cost you and I a lot more tax dollars than the ones in the projects. I'm just tired of people thinking the poor are their enemy - especially the working poor - when there's someone making millions off our tax dollars just because they can shake the right hand. If we can take care of those welfare queens first, I'll join your crusade against the few poor people who exploit the system.
    the working class hero crap never resonated with me -or anyone else who knows the score



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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    So we are talking about unions and you want to bring up taxes that have nothing to do with paying teachers. I get it you have nothing.
    Actually - you just proved my point.

    Walker's bill will do nothing to lower taxes. It merely takes rights away from workers. Taxpayers will save nothing in the end.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the working class hero crap never resonated with me -or anyone else who knows the score
    Because you have no respect for people who work for a livng.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the working class hero crap never resonated with me -or anyone else who knows the score
    And you actually ignore the fact that the wealthy mooch off the government much more than the poor do.

    You obviously support cronyism.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Actually - you just proved my point.

    Walker's bill will do nothing to lower taxes. It merely takes rights away from workers. Taxpayers will save nothing in the end.
    good idea for him to destroy an organ of the opposition's party



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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    And you actually ignore the fact that the wealthy mooch off the government much more than the poor do.

    You obviously support cronyism.
    really

    sounds like crap to me-you must be thinking of rich dems who are rich because of the government

    the poor don't pay anything in federal income taxes



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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    your envy and hatred comes to the surface

    why-he already paid lots of taxes while accumulating it

    where do you get off wanting the government to confiscate the property that was legally earned?
    Earned by the dead guy; not his worthless offspring.

    I value work. He worked for it. She didn't.

    You support birthright and believe in aristocracy over work.

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