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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Here's an idea, genius, pay them more and you'd attract higher quality people.

    Keep paying them **** and you're just going to end up with dumber children and a worse economy.

    Oh, but you'd have more people to look down upon from your ivory tower, so I guess I see why you would like that so much.


    I dont really care who looks down on me-fortunately I am very good at what I do and I am wealthy enough that I am in the Kiss my as club.

    and we cannot afford it-reality bites

    but thanks for agreeing with me=about the quality of people attracted



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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I am delighted we both agree with ending corporate welfare and US military imperialism around the globe!
    yes I want the government to actually live within the limits of the constitution and the tenth amendment.

    ponder what that means for all the socialist nonsense you crave



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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    ie those paying most of the taxes?
    We all pay taxes. Do you mean those that make more than those they are complaining about?
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We all pay taxes. Do you mean those that make more than those they are complaining about?
    No we all do not pay taxes. I started a thread proving it

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We all pay taxes. Do you mean those that make more than those they are complaining about?
    I said what I meant and meant what I said. the rich most of the actually tax dollars in this country. The top 5% pay more federal income taxes than the bottom 95% and more death confiscation taxes (indeed the top 1 percent pay more DC taxes than the bottom 99%)

    as to the taxes that fund teachers in the public sector-that depends on how the states fund them



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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    I think in this economy and with the government with no money they are doing better than most and should be content they are well off.

    The next step is layoffs is that what you want. thenthey will have to live on unemployment which is much less.


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    This isn't about the increase in personal contributions to retirement and healthcare.

    The Unions already agreed to that and have said so multiple times.

    This is NOTHING but Union busting. Period. It's stripping workers' rights away from them and nothing more.

    How can you not get that? Walker won't listen to anyone except his cheerleaders. Even some of his Republicans have said, "Let's take out this part of the bill and get back to work." And he refuses.

    It's because - like a lot of Republicans - he doesn't believe that work should be paid for.

    He also believe that he should have the right to sell off government property to anyone for any price he sees fit.

    It's corruption. It's taking money away from working people so the rich can get richer and nothing more.

    He strips rights from middle class workers - teachers, policemen & women, fire fighters, EMTs - and will sell public utilities to rich, private, investors (that taxpayers built and paid for) for less than they're worth.

    That's what this bill is about. It's not about teachers not accepting pay freezes or paying more for healthcare. If it were, this wouldn't have become news; because there would've been no controversy - because the Unions already agreed to it.

    You've posted how much you make. You believe one day, apparently, that you'll be one of the uberwealthy who will benefit from these policies. Hate to tell you, but it ain't gonna happen. Odds are very against you rising above your parents' station in this country.

    You are calling these people "fat cats" when they make about $48,000 a year. Nationwide, public employees with college degrees make about $51,000. Walker, himself, makes more than twice that - but I don't see him offering up his salary.

    He just wants to take it away from working people.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    No we all do not pay taxes. I started a thread proving it
    he means stuff like sin taxes on smokes, sales taxes, taxes when you sit down at arby's to eat rather than taking it out, gasoline taxes and the forced contributions to Medicare and SS



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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I said what I meant and meant what I said. the rich most of the actually tax dollars in this country. The top 5% pay more federal income taxes than the bottom 95% and more death confiscation taxes (indeed the top 1 percent pay more DC taxes than the bottom 99%)

    as to the taxes that fund teachers in the public sector-that depends on how the states fund them
    **** the "death tax". It's the Paris Hilton Life Support Benefit (if you can give it a cutesy name, I can too).

    And OF COURSE the top 1% pay the most in the interitance tax. Because they're the only ones affected by it because they're the only ones who have enough to have the tax levied against them.

    DUH!

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Interesting. And what are the pensions for elected officials in Illinois? Just curious.

    My point is I think it's shameful for people like Walker and Daniels claim their employees have to sacrifice, while they do not.

    I also think it's sad that, instead of people demanding more from their employers (what state government workers receive USED to be what private sectors employees got), they want to make sure others have as crappy benefits as they do.

    "We have fewer rights! You should to!"

    And this isn't about the budget at all. It's been said over and over again, that the contribution changes and the wage freezes would be acceptable; the only thing they ask is that the right to collective bargaining not be stripped from them.

    Walker could solve this quickly. But he won't. Why? Because it's not about budgets at all; it's solely about stripping workers' rights (and selling public utilities off to his rich friends at prices he deems fit - because he has to pay back his masters).

    This is an assault on all working people.
    Perhaps you could say it's an assault on 11.9% of all working people!!!! Again, cry me a river.

    Never belonged to a union in my life. I've done very well in my life. Ya' know why? Because I was rewarded on my merits. I negotiated my own salary, my own benefits. And ya' know what else? It didn't cost the taxpayers a freakin' dime.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    No we all do not pay taxes. I started a thread proving it
    We may not all pay income tax - but you pay taxes. Lots of them, as Turtledude pointed out.

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