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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Keep trying, you might gen up a enough to .....well..whatever.
    Don't like my spelling? That is all you have so I guess we are done here

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Why???????????? Did you have a bad experience with a teacher Ptif? Why do you feel they should be paid less than someone else with a comparable education?
    It is not the education but what others make for the same job. You want to distort to justify the overpayment of government employees

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    are you demonizing having an education? isnt that what we as Americans have preached to our children since the inception of this country? 'go to school, make something of yourself, be better than your parents, make more money, have a better life'???? seriously?????? sounds like you are jealous. with grading papers, lesson planning, and continuing education, teachers on average work more than 9 months.
    No they don't. You think they put in more hours a day then say a truck driver? The school year is 9 months the hours is not relevant

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Libertarians also wish to end corporate welfare and our military imperialism around the globe. You okay with that too?
    Not just corporate welfare but all subsidies
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Very little that I agree with regarding any politician, that is life. On the public union issue he was absolutely correct
    That's your opinion, but everything he said fits into the mix which was FDR. You can't just take one issue out unless you know how they affect his total thought and apply them to the president. But, of course the only reason FDR's opinion on this issue to conservatives, is because he is a liberal icon. That's all. To be fair, liberals do the same thing. Ronald Reagan supported Social Security.


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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Interesting. And what are the pensions for elected officials in Illinois? Just curious.

    My point is I think it's shameful for people like Walker and Daniels claim their employees have to sacrifice, while they do not.

    I also think it's sad that, instead of people demanding more from their employers (what state government workers receive USED to be what private sectors employees got), they want to make sure others have as crappy benefits as they do.

    "We have fewer rights! You should to!"

    And this isn't about the budget at all. It's been said over and over again, that the contribution changes and the wage freezes would be acceptable; the only thing they ask is that the right to collective bargaining not be stripped from them.

    Walker could solve this quickly. But he won't. Why? Because it's not about budgets at all; it's solely about stripping workers' rights (and selling public utilities off to his rich friends at prices he deems fit - because he has to pay back his masters).

    This is an assault on all working people.
    The assault on the working class is the unions thinking the taxpayers owe them more money

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I don't think public unions should have the right to collective bargaining, a right limited at the Federal level. FDR got it right when he didn't support collective bargaining for public unions. I support Walker 100% but since I am not in Wisconsin and neither are you it really doesn't matter what we think.
    I care about my friends and family who live there - two of whom are teachers; one of whom is a college professor at Wiscy.

    You realize there are only 5 states where teachers don't have collective bargaining rights: the higest one on ACT/SAT scores is Virginia at 44th. The rest rank 47th, 48th, 49th, and 50th. Pay your teachers **** and you get poorly educated children.

    SAT and ACT Average Scores by States

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    The assault on the working class is the unions thinking the taxpayers owe them more money
    So teachers, cops, and firefighters should be slaves?

    Besides, you just said you don't pay taxes, so why do you care?

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    WTF "crisis" are you talking about? If Walker had not gave away tax breaks to his buddies then there would have been "no crisis." As Walker admitted when he got punked, it wasn't about the budget, it was about busting unions with Wisconsin being the first domino. He didn't mention that in his campaign, but he sure as hell doesn't mind agreeing with David Koch, his biggest contributor, about it.
    So the former democrat governor has no stake in this. Funny how that works all Obama does is blame Bush but here the former democrat governor is not at all responsible here for the debt in the state budget..

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    So teachers, cops, and firefighters should be slaves?

    Besides, you just said you don't pay taxes, so why do you care?
    I do pay taxes that pay teachers. I pay my property taxes. in Florida we do not have a state income tax. federal money only pays part of the money needed for education.

    Slaves? Slaves only wish they could get those wages and benefits. That is hardly slaves

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