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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    So the Republicans fleed the state to keep from voting on gay marriage? Don't think so, they just didn't show up. If they did they were wrong but gay marriage isn't the same as the state budget crisis. What do the people of Indiana think about gay marriage? Think the will of the people will be served by a legislature passing gay marriage? Notice you ran from the statement I made about Walker telling the people exactly what he was going to do and now he is doing it.
    He did say he would change contribution rates and reform pensions. No where on his website does it say he would take away workers' right to collective bargaining.

    Nor does it say he would sell off public utilities to private industries with no-bid contracts at whatever price he sees fit.

    So pardon people if they're a little surprised when he is trying to destroy workers' rights and give away government property to his funders.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    Edited: I also looked it up: Daniels makes $95,000 / year and Walker makes $137,000.
    And that doesn't include the benefits and perks.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    He did say he would change contribution rates and reform pensions. No where on his website does it say he would take away workers' right to collective bargaining.

    Nor does it say he would sell off public utilities to private industries with no-bid contracts at whatever price he sees fit.

    So pardon people if they're a little surprised when he is trying to destroy workers' rights and give away government property to his funders.
    I don't think public unions should have the right to collective bargaining, a right limited at the Federal level. FDR got it right when he didn't support collective bargaining for public unions. I support Walker 100% but since I am not in Wisconsin and neither are you it really doesn't matter what we think.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    So the Republicans fleed the state to keep from voting on gay marriage? Don't think so, they just didn't show up. If they did they were wrong but gay marriage isn't the same as the state budget crisis. What do the people of Indiana think about gay marriage? Think the will of the people will be served by a legislature passing gay marriage? Notice you ran from the statement I made about Walker telling the people exactly what he was going to do and now he is doing it.
    WTF "crisis" are you talking about? If Walker had not gave away tax breaks to his buddies then there would have been "no crisis." As Walker admitted when he got punked, it wasn't about the budget, it was about busting unions with Wisconsin being the first domino. He didn't mention that in his campaign, but he sure as hell doesn't mind agreeing with David Koch, his biggest contributor, about it.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I don't think public unions should have the right to collective bargaining, a right limited at the Federal level. FDR got it right when he didn't support collective bargaining for public unions. I support Walker 100% but since I am not in Wisconsin and neither are you it really doesn't matter what we think.
    Sure it does. This is a national effort to repeal the 20th century. It will hit all of us sooner or later. We can be like the various Native American tribes and allow it to happen one at a time and end up defeated or we can unite and fight this together. We all hang together or we all hang separately.

    btw - FDR has been dead for a really long time now. He took other positions that have since been eclipsed by the changes in America.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    WTF "crisis" are you talking about? If Walker had not gave away tax breaks to his buddies then there would have been "no crisis." As Walker admitted when he got punked, it wasn't about the budget, it was about busting unions with Wisconsin being the first domino. He didn't mention that in his campaign, but he sure as hell doesn't mind agreeing with David Koch, his biggest contributor, about it.
    You really don't have a clue how to create jobs. You look at the tax cuts to lure companies and ignore the people those companies hire that pay taxes. you don't have a lot of credibility on any issue as you run when confronted. Just like tax cuts to you cause deficits and not spending. You see tax cuts doing nothing for the economy and history proves you wrong. Walker is trying to lure people back to the states, think raising taxes to fund public unions will do that?

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Sure it does. This is a national effort to repeal the 20th century. It will hit all of us sooner or later. We can be like the various Native American tribes and allow it to happen one at a time and end up defeated or we can unite and fight this together. We all hang together or we all hang separately.

    btw - FDR has been dead for a really long time now. He took other positions that have since been eclipsed by the changes in America.
    There is a reason the rust belt is losing jobs to the south. Run them all down here, great! You keep running from FDR's words, don't blame you. Don't see you running away from FDR's programs which by your logic are outdated as well.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I don't think public unions should have the right to collective bargaining, a right limited at the Federal level. FDR got it right when he didn't support collective bargaining for public unions. I support Walker 100% but since I am not in Wisconsin and neither are you it really doesn't matter what we think.
    I suppose since you agree with FDR on this, you agree with with every else he said, right? Healthcare is a right, living wage, etc. etc. ???


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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I suppose since you agree with FDR on this, you agree with with every else he said, right? Healthcare is a right, living wage, etc. etc. ???
    Very little that I agree with regarding any politician, that is life. On the public union issue he was absolutely correct

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I suppose since you agree with FDR on this, you agree with with every else he said, right? Healthcare is a right, living wage, etc. etc. ???
    I think Conservative was arguing that even someone as pro-union as FDR understood the inevitable problems that come with allowing public unions. It isn't so much about what he thinks of FDR as much as FDR, arguably the most pro-union president the US has ever had, identifying that unions have no place in the public sector.
    Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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