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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    That's a terrible analogy. That is what is called a straw man. You simply took my point of view, packaged it and turned it into something else, and then tackled that argument.

    Guess what? I never asked whether or not you could buy a car. I asked why I should believe the free market is correct in deciding compensation for a CEO that makes 2150 times the amount of most his employees? That was my question.
    Really? I tried the number 50,000 times 2150 and my calculatar doesn't have enough room for all the zeros. So geez, I might agree that they make too much money.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

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    Look when your income is cut what do you do? If you believe giving tax breaks to corporations create the deficits then stop the damn spending.
    If you stop voting GOP, we could.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I posted the 2010 budget and I am sure you can find 30 billion in cuts there to promote job creation.
    Spending cuts do not necessarily create jobs, and in any case, it shouldn't be the responsibility of the government to create any private sector jobs.

    How many employees will that 30 billion tanker contract create?
    I don't want the US gummint taking $$ from me or my kids to create jobs for others that have no value to anyone else.

    You really don't like CEO's apparently, how many are there and what did they create of our 14.3 trillion dollar debt?
    The CEOs and corporate board members created a major portion of the debt by constantly influencing boehneristic lawmakers to spend money on their (useless) products.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    the problem here Conservative is that you judge others by what you yourself describe as your own political experience. You proudly trumpet how your own views have not changed but the Democratic Party... ooooppps --- you call it the Democrat Party - don't you.....(as if that Limbaughism is not a complete giveaway to the fraud) left you. You stood still while the dems left you behind and you found yourself as Republican.

    You see sir, many people tend to change a bit - sometimes alot - and evolve with the times. That was the type of person FDR was and there is tons of evidence of it in the excellent series of books about him and the New Deal by Arthur Schlesinger. You should read them. Its all in there and will give you all the proof you need that FDR changed his views to the demands of the times and the situation. He was far from the type of individual that you yourself proudly proclaim to be.

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    I agree--people change. as they become wiser and hopefully more independent they tend to throw off the shackles of dependency and needing parents and become self sufficient Those who remain in a permanent state of childhood tend to want to substitute their often deceased or distant parents with surrogates-ie government



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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Not sure but could the lack of subsidies effect the price of gas for all of us?
    Not at all. The oil industry is oligopolistic, so the only significant factor that affects price is the demand for fuel (labor and hardware cost is negligible).
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Two minutes ago you were telling someone to look at his calendar and forget what FDR said about public sector Unions...now...
    and both fit perfectly into the context of the discussion. You are an angel for noticing Barb.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I agree--people change. as they become wiser and hopefully more independent they tend to throw off the shackles of dependency and needing parents and become self sufficient Those who remain in a permanent state of childhood tend to want to substitute their often deceased or distant parents with surrogates-ie government
    When you reply to a post that you reproduce from another person - in this case mine - a good tip to remember is to have something which actually speaks to the post that you reproduced leading into you remarks. It makes so much more sense that way. Nothing you said had anything to do with my words. Nothing.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Get used to it my friend. It is standard operating procedure for that poster and is his favorite way of 'debating'. twist it - change it - rephrase it - pervert it - turn it into a Frankenstein monster of the actual idea - because its so much easier to attack it that way.

    And get ready for the part where he puts on the referee suit and proclaims himself the winner, you the loser, and you FAIL. Thats my personal favorite part.
    This really is getting old, liberalism is a complete and absolute failure just like "your" President. The facts are overwhelming. Obama rhetoric always trumps facts. Do you know that Obama has not given the Federal public union employees the benefits that Wisconsin public service employees have? Continue to buy the rhetoric and ignore the results. Defending the indefensible makes you look foolish.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    When you reply to a post that you reproduce from another person - in this case mine - a good tip to remember is to have something which actually speaks to the post that you reproduced leading into you remarks. It makes so much more sense that way. Nothing you said had anything to do with my words. Nothing.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I guess I don't see the exploitation you see by public school teachers. If there is a bad teacher in your school district, there are more opportunities to address that than in the private sector. And the so called exploitation, I suppose you mean their meager salary and benefits, is about what the average is for someone with comparable education.

    Are there probably some examples of bad teachers in Wisconsin that don't deserve $75,000 a year? I'm sure there are but it doesn't mean that teachers in general are being overpaid.

    We have a lot of problems in this country but overpaid teachers is not one of them.
    I agree.

    There are some lazy school teachers, and some excellent school teachers, and some in between.

    Nevertheless, you're correct that in the grand scheme of things, i. e. considering all the other world's problems, overpaid teachers are a non-issue.

    And in fact, I have no problem w/teachers doing whatever it takes (including exploiting union contracts and lounging around in class if terms aren't met) for the sake of getting what they deserve, because those groups that claim to abhor unions as an affront to free markets (i. e. the GOP) themselves engage in other forms of unethical conduct that undermined the free market.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    solletica;1059310407]If you stop voting GOP, we could.
    And who should I vote for. I am not a Republican, I am a conservative and right now the GOP beats the alternative.


    Spending cuts do not necessarily create jobs, and in any case, it shouldn't be the responsibility of the government to create any private sector jobs.
    Couldn't agree more, it isn't the Government's responsibility to create jobs nor can they that actually produce anything.


    I don't want the US gummint taking $$ from me or my kids to create jobs for others that have no value to anyone else.
    That is what liberalism thinks they can do, take money and spend it wisely to redistribute wealth. It never works.

    The CEOs and corporate board members created a major portion of the debt by constantly influencing boehneristic lawmakers to spend money on their (useless) products.
    You were doing so well, spending causes debt not tax cuts that promote the private sector. CEO's and corporate board members of private companies do not affect the U.S. Debt at all.

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