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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Anyone who can read and has any knowledge of City State and Federal Government knows full well that Unions are the bane of balancing a budget.

    The cost of Government employees is driving more than one State into the ditch.

    Unions have long ago lost their usefulness. State and Federal wage and hour laws have along with minimum wage laws taken care of most issues that Unions were once good for helping workers with.

    I agree that the Federal Minimum wage is too low but other than that, if you don't like your job quit and get a better one, or work harder and get promoted for a better wage.

    The Senators in Wisconsin are unable to make a reasonable responsible argument in favor of their position so the cowards ran away like children and have abdicated their oath of office.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    So you didn't decide not to smack your cat because someone might see you and think less of you. You are morally superior to Walker.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Are These People Overpaid?



    MADISON, Wis. -- David Rhode is a paramedic in Middleton, Wis. He works 56 hours a week, mostly in 24-hour shifts, frequently carrying wheezy patients up and down flights of stairs. He said he earns about $43,000 a year.

    HuffPost asked Rhode, 36, how it feels to be overpaid. His eyebrows went up.

    "I drove my Ford Focus here," he said. "I live in a 950-square-foot condominium!"

    Wisconsin has become the front line in a national debate over pay and benefits for unionized public workers, with conservatives arguing that people like Rhode have become a privileged class overburdening taxpayers. Gov. Scott Walker (R) is pushing a budget bill that calls for reduced pay, cuts to pension and health plans, and an end to collective bargaining rights for public workers. Similar measures are popping up in other states as lawmakers cope with recession-fueled deficits.

    Rhode said he participated in contract negotiations between the Middleton city administrator and his union, which he said successfully bargained for less vacation time in order to maintain its current level of health coverage. Under the resulting contract, the city covers 95 percent of the cost of premiums. Walker's bill would cap that at 88 percent, which union bosses have said they're willing to accept so long as collective bargaining rights are preserved.

    Rhode said the contract negotiations process in which he participated led to a successful compromise. "And that's what they're trying to take away," he said.

    On the second floor, HuffPost met Erica McCool, a seventh-grade English teacher in Stoughton, carrying a sign that said she wouldn't let Walker into her classroom because he's a bully. A former paralegal, McCool said she she started studying to get a Wisconsin educator license in 2005 and now earns about $30,000 a year as an English teacher. She loves her job but laughed when asked whether she considered herself overprivileged.

    "I can't get a home loan. I set my thermostat at 62. No cable at my house, no internet," said McCool, 29. "I'm also $36,000 in debt from becoming a teacher."

    On the ground floor, Madison resident Pete Silva told HuffPost he had been a firefighter for 26 years when he retired in September at age 52. Silva said he worked 56 hours a week, often 24-hour shifts, driving a fire engine in response to fires and medical emergencies. He said his salary started at $31,000 and had reached $60,000 by the time he retired.

    Silva said his pension provides $30,000 a year, which isn't enough for him to live on, so he's taken a job as an instructor in the Wisconsin Technical College System, earning roughly $55,000 a year. His total income is significantly higher than what he earned as a firefighter, but he makes no apologies, arguing that a nice pension was part of the deal he made in exchange for his decades in a dangerous job. He said he sustained two neck injuries from lifting "very, very heavy patients" and has had to replace herniated discs.

    "We had the promise of stable retirement," Silva said, after a career spent in what he described as frequent contact with human blood, puke and poop. "You'd be amazed how much poop is out there," he added.

    As for the push to limit the rights and funds enjoyed by unionized public workers, Silva said, "People hate to see someone doing better than they are."

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    He did conduct himself better. He didn't do what they thought about doing. I'm thinking about smacking my cat because he is bugging me right now. I'm not going to though, because I don't believe in abusing animals.
    We will see if the people of Wisconsin think he conducted himself better.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    (smile) Pay no attention to Cawtaba's straw man....

    No body has issues with the front end dude.....you aren't paying attention.

    Snap to Skippy.


    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Are These People Overpaid?



    MADISON, Wis. -- David Rhode is a paramedic in Middleton, Wis. He works 56 hours a week, mostly in 24-hour shifts, frequently carrying wheezy patients up and down flights of stairs. He said he earns about $43,000 a year.

    HuffPost asked Rhode, 36, how it feels to be overpaid. His eyebrows went up.

    "I drove my Ford Focus here," he said. "I live in a 950-square-foot condominium!"

    Wisconsin has become the front line in a national debate over pay and benefits for unionized public workers, with conservatives arguing that people like Rhode have become a privileged class overburdening taxpayers. Gov. Scott Walker (R) is pushing a budget bill that calls for reduced pay, cuts to pension and health plans, and an end to collective bargaining rights for public workers. Similar measures are popping up in other states as lawmakers cope with recession-fueled deficits.

    Rhode said he participated in contract negotiations between the Middleton city administrator and his union, which he said successfully bargained for less vacation time in order to maintain its current level of health coverage. Under the resulting contract, the city covers 95 percent of the cost of premiums. Walker's bill would cap that at 88 percent, which union bosses have said they're willing to accept so long as collective bargaining rights are preserved.

    Rhode said the contract negotiations process in which he participated led to a successful compromise. "And that's what they're trying to take away," he said.

    On the second floor, HuffPost met Erica McCool, a seventh-grade English teacher in Stoughton, carrying a sign that said she wouldn't let Walker into her classroom because he's a bully. A former paralegal, McCool said she she started studying to get a Wisconsin educator license in 2005 and now earns about $30,000 a year as an English teacher. She loves her job but laughed when asked whether she considered herself overprivileged.

    "I can't get a home loan. I set my thermostat at 62. No cable at my house, no internet," said McCool, 29. "I'm also $36,000 in debt from becoming a teacher."

    On the ground floor, Madison resident Pete Silva told HuffPost he had been a firefighter for 26 years when he retired in September at age 52. Silva said he worked 56 hours a week, often 24-hour shifts, driving a fire engine in response to fires and medical emergencies. He said his salary started at $31,000 and had reached $60,000 by the time he retired.

    Silva said his pension provides $30,000 a year, which isn't enough for him to live on, so he's taken a job as an instructor in the Wisconsin Technical College System, earning roughly $55,000 a year. His total income is significantly higher than what he earned as a firefighter, but he makes no apologies, arguing that a nice pension was part of the deal he made in exchange for his decades in a dangerous job. He said he sustained two neck injuries from lifting "very, very heavy patients" and has had to replace herniated discs.

    "We had the promise of stable retirement," Silva said, after a career spent in what he described as frequent contact with human blood, puke and poop. "You'd be amazed how much poop is out there," he added.

    As for the push to limit the rights and funds enjoyed by unionized public workers, Silva said, "People hate to see someone doing better than they are."

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No, I must have missed the latest Beck episode...........
    Here's a video of Union Boss Trumka bragging about it.

    He just had another meeting with Biden yesterday. I don't know what he was up to today.


    Shocking Level of Influence Exposed: Union Boss Trumka Talks to White House EVERY DAY and Visits a Couple Times A Week | The Blaze

    BTW, Kudos to MSNBC I can't believe I just said that with a straight face
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    History is a great subject. And also you are wrong, look here and here.

    There are militarizes that still goose step, but I guess that makes them Nazis right?
    You're right, except it helps to understand the intent of the person originally using a word. In this case there is little doubt that he attempted to use in a defamatory way.

    Popular awareness

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    "Taxpayers in State of Wisconsin will pay $11.8 billion for proposed Dept. of Defense for FY11.

    For the same amount of money, the following could be provided:

    8.8 million Children Receiving Low-Income Healthcare for One Year OR
    187,914 Elementary School Teachers for One Year OR
    258,971 Firefighters for One Year OR
    1.7 million Head Start Slots for Children for One Year OR
    3.4 million Households with Renewable Electricity - Solar Photovoltaic for One Year OR
    9.2 million Households with Renewable Electricity-Wind Power for One Year OR
    1.6 million Military Veterans Receiving VA Medical Care for One Year OR
    1.6 million Military Veterans Receiving VA Medical Care for One Year OR
    2.6 million People Receiving Low-Income Healthcare for One Year OR
    182,022 Police or Sheriff's Patrol Officers for One Year OR
    1.4 million Scholarships for University Students for One Year OR
    2.1 million Students receiving Pell Grants of $5550"

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Yes they invest it as to make more $$$ for themselves

    If they invest it to grow a business they hire more people.
    Why do you hate rich people? Wouldn't you like to be wealthy yourself someday? Think of all the people you could help.
    I wish I was rich so I could help more people.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    You're screwed dude...your sources are simply BS.

    We don't quote Fox...you don't quote the things you do...well..not with credibility anyway.

    HuffPo and that Union thing...yeah right.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    "Taxpayers in State of Wisconsin will pay $11.8 billion for proposed Dept. of Defense for FY11.

    For the same amount of money, the following could be provided:

    8.8 million Children Receiving Low-Income Healthcare for One Year OR
    187,914 Elementary School Teachers for One Year OR
    258,971 Firefighters for One Year OR
    1.7 million Head Start Slots for Children for One Year OR
    3.4 million Households with Renewable Electricity - Solar Photovoltaic for One Year OR
    9.2 million Households with Renewable Electricity-Wind Power for One Year OR
    1.6 million Military Veterans Receiving VA Medical Care for One Year OR
    1.6 million Military Veterans Receiving VA Medical Care for One Year OR
    2.6 million People Receiving Low-Income Healthcare for One Year OR
    182,022 Police or Sheriff's Patrol Officers for One Year OR
    1.4 million Scholarships for University Students for One Year OR
    2.1 million Students receiving Pell Grants of $5550"

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