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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    gonna have to be several tens of thousands more before i would consider something to be 'superstar' pay.
    It's all about perspective.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I say its silly and not a little bit pathetic that you keep hearkening back to the 1920's as your justification for preserving unions. Should I point to the 70's and 80's and say that because of that era all unions are nothing more than fronts for organized crime activity?
    I think it is silly that you can remember why they were created and still find them to be erroneous. Unions were created because workers were being taken advantage of, and it is silly to think that without them they wouldn't be taken advantage of again.

    Business has one goal: make money. If there is no force to control business, business will screw you. I have no issue with big business, but it does need controls.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    You see, these teachers are getting paid like superstars, and well... I don't mind paying superstars well, but that should be the free market deciding... not the standard... and when our schools suck dick, and the states are in the red beyond their eyeballs... I think this is one of many prime places to cut.

    People should also be able to opt out of joining cartels... I mean unions.

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    Superstars? How much are teachers being paid that you can compare them to superstars?

    Side question: How much do you believe the people that teach our children should be paid?

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Superstars? How much are teachers being paid that you can compare them to superstars?

    Side question: How much do you believe the people that teach our children should be paid?
    I think our teachers should be paid generously but they shouldn't have bargaining tools. They must pay for retirement and health benefits just as most "normal folk" do. Also they should feel the pressure, maybe they will actually start teaching our kids instead of just claiming a paycheck and counting the days to summer break.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Superstars? How much are teachers being paid that you can compare them to superstars?

    Side question: How much do you believe the people that teach our children should be paid?
    Average teacher pay is 42k. They get paid pretty well, but its not superstar pay.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Superstars? How much are teachers being paid that you can compare them to superstars?

    Side question: How much do you believe the people that teach our children should be paid?
    Try a hundred grand on for size.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Try a hundred grand on for size.
    bzzt! wrong.

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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Rachel Maddow made an excellent point on her show the other night. If Republicans can remove unions from the picture, they remove the only large donors the Democrats have. All of the corporations overwhelmingly support the GOP. With Unions out of the picture, all of the big money influencing elections will be by corporations.

    Anyone up for one party rule? I'm sure that's worked out fine when its been used in the past, right?
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Rachel Maddow made an excellent point on her show the other night. If Republicans can remove unions from the picture, they remove the only large donors the Democrats have. All of the corporations overwhelmingly support the GOP. With Unions out of the picture, all of the big money influencing elections will be by corporations.

    Anyone up for one party rule? I'm sure that's worked out fine when its been used in the past, right?
    Yeah in China and look how that turned out.
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    Re: Walker takes broad swipe at public employee unions

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Democrats left town to avoid vote. Is this how the democrats and unions show civility that Obama called for last month?
    This is what you do when have nothing of substantive to argue. These Democrats are lost in a dream world where reality doesn't inter into the conversations.

    Obama and all his Democrat minions believe all you have to do is tax the hell out of the people and keep spending like there is no tomorrow.

    Now it's time to pay the piper and the Liberals want to blame eveyone but themselves for over spending and the Unions which are in my opinion obsolete and no better than organized crime.
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