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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    All well in good, but that will take care of approximately .2% of the deficit. Average annual foreign aid is about $25 Billion to all nations. Deficit is 1.4 Trillion.

    So how we gonna fix the other 99.8%?

    This is honestly what bothers me about these things. We have glaring problems in Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security and a MASSIVELY bloated defense budget. But instead of taking care of those things; which would actually have impact, the current Congress will pretend they're doing things by going after programs that amount to .2% or in some cases (Corporation for Public Broadcasting), .01%.

    So, if we eliminate foreign aid and the CPB, that would take care of .21% of the deficit.

    If you were a person and you were spending more than you made would you first cut iceberg lettuce out of your budget or would you get rid of your second home?
    I guess I missed the part wher he said "and that will solve EVERYTHING!"

    Its a beginning, not an end

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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I guess I missed the part wher he said "and that will solve EVERYTHING!"

    Its a beginning, not an end
    It is still like getting a manicure while both legs and the under-body is rotting away with gangrene..
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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    It is still like getting a manicure while both legs and the under-body is rotting away with gangrene..
    We are less than a month into the new congress. Chill. Besides he also has suggested other cuts. And Rand Paul isnt going to be the budget savior...so lets start seeing others engage and propose massive cuts. Hell they do that I will even embrace tax increases on the wealthy to pay down the debt.

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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    We are less than a month into the new congress. Chill. Besides he also has suggested other cuts. And Rand Paul isnt going to be the budget savior...so lets start seeing others engage and propose massive cuts. Hell they do that I will even embrace tax increases on the wealthy to pay down the debt.
    Considering the Tea Party/GOP mantra of cutting 100 billion as fast as possible, has now gone down to 32 billion.. then... not optimistic at all.
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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Considering the Tea Party/GOP mantra of cutting 100 billion as fast as possible, has now gone down to 32 billion.. then... not optimistic at all.
    Oh dont worry...I understand your mindset...any way at all to bash the Tea Party goals...ohmigid...its not been a full month, theres only 4 of them affiliated int he senate and they havent managed to undo 40-50 years of democrat and republican spending that has put us in a 14 trillion dollar hole...imagine that.

    How much cuts are others proposing? FM...

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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Oh dont worry...I understand your mindset...any way at all to bash the Tea Party goals...ohmigid...its not been a full month, theres only 4 of them affiliated int he senate and they havent managed to undo 40-50 years of democrat and republican spending that has put us in a 14 trillion dollar hole...imagine that.

    How much cuts are others proposing? FM...
    My mindset is based on a decade of GOP control of congress and the fact that the deficit grew grew and grew some more and there was never any real cuts or attempts to fix the problem. And it is pretty much the same crowd that is in place today.
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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    My mindset is based on a decade of GOP control of congress and the fact that the deficit grew grew and grew some more and there was never any real cuts or attempts to fix the problem. And it is pretty much the same crowd that is in place today.
    Of course it is...heaven forbid you see both sides...because democrats havent added 4 trillion in the last few years...

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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Of course it is...heaven forbid you see both sides...because democrats havent added 4 trillion in the last few years...
    Again, not true. Bush could just have vetoed anything that raised the debt.. but he did not.. he actually proposed most of the 4 trillion you claim are the "dems fault".

    And that was on top of the 4 to 5 trillion he and his republican congress added to the debt in the 8 years of his presidency.. Like it or not, most of the debt the US has today is due to Republicans not living up to their own golden rule of "fiscal responsibility".

    Reagan tripled the debt and Bush 2 doubled the debt he started with... and that is a fact that no amount of spin can change.
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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Again, not true. Bush could just have vetoed anything that raised the debt.. but he did not.. he actually proposed most of the 4 trillion you claim are the "dems fault".

    And that was on top of the 4 to 5 trillion he and his republican congress added to the debt in the 8 years of his presidency.. Like it or not, most of the debt the US has today is due to Republicans not living up to their own golden rule of "fiscal responsibility".

    Reagan tripled the debt and Bush 2 doubled the debt he started with... and that is a fact that no amount of spin can change.
    And what has happened in the last 4 years since the democrats controlled the house and senate? And the last two?

    nah...its just republicans. FM

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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    It'd be nice if you could elaborate on that thought.
    Israel is a technology hub and a valuable ally in terms of military technology. Africa is simply a drag on the Western world. It must be weened off the European/US tit if we ever want them to stop complaining about neocolonialism.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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