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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    If we're going to stop paying foreign aid money, we need to START with countries that hate us and are uncooperative or downright against us. THEN we can cut funds for dubious allies like Egypt and Saudi.

    Israel is way far down the list. STARTING with Israel smacks of anti-Izzy-ism to me.
    I'm afraid the "Starting with Israel" idea is one that has been invented by posters in this thread. If you read the original article, Israel is not the target, not the first to be cut, not the focus of Paul's musings at all. It's just that Israel has a lot of people watching their back.
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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Is it advisable for us to continue to provide military aid to countries that commit human rights violations, even though they support our interest in ME oil?
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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    All well in good, but that will take care of approximately .2% of the deficit. Average annual foreign aid is about $25 Billion to all nations. Deficit is 1.4 Trillion.

    So how we gonna fix the other 99.8%?

    This is honestly what bothers me about these things. We have glaring problems in Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security and a MASSIVELY bloated defense budget. But instead of taking care of those things; which would actually have impact, the current Congress will pretend they're doing things by going after programs that amount to .2% or in some cases (Corporation for Public Broadcasting), .01%.

    So, if we eliminate foreign aid and the CPB, that would take care of .21% of the deficit.

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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Saudi Arabia would be nothing without us.

    We just picked one of their random tribal warlords and gave him tanks, that's why they like us now.

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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    Saudi Arabia would be nothing without us.

    We just picked one of their random tribal warlords and gave him tanks, that's why they like us now.
    The House of Saud existed before the US was a nation. We didn't pick anything. Ibn Wahhab picked the House of Saud.

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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    All foreign aid should be cut and enough of the military welfare we give to Europe, Parts of Asia, Latin America and Africa. If people want to give money to these nations they should be free to do so via private charities, not tax payer theft.
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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I'm not an isolationist. I'm against turning our backs on our allies.
    I never said we should turn our backs on our allies. Just stop giving them money,especially when we are debt.

    Rand Paul, like his father, is an isolationist.
    Even a isolationist can be right once or twice. However politco wasn't trying to paint Rand Paul as a isolationist.
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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I never said we should turn our backs on our allies. Just stop giving them money,especially when we are debt.



    Even a isolationist can be right once or twice. However politco wasn't trying to paint Rand Paul as a isolationist.
    Exactly, and I see the accusations of being anti-Israel, and isolationist, dishonest as hell. I will state exactly what I believe, so that it cannot be taken out of context again:

    1) Cut ALL foreign aid. This includes Israel, Europe, Africa, and everywhere else. America should aid it's own first. America first. Period.

    2) The cold war is over. We need to cut our military bases by at least half. There is no excuse to bust the budget, whether by excessive welfare programs for our citizens, or welfare to the military-industrial complex. Let's also include welfare for the banksters in this.

    Budget cuts doesn't mean cut all programs which I don't like, but give the programs I like a pass. It means making hard choices over the whole spectrum, and trimming what we need to trim, in order to get to a point where we are once again fiscally responsible. THIS is what Rand Paul was talking about. We can't give away money that we desperately need ourselves. Did you know that, during the winter storm we just had, Texas ended up receiving foreign aid from Mexico, in the form of electricity? This is totally unacceptable. We need to take care of our own first, before we even begin to think about taking care of other nations. Foreign aid in better times? Sure. But these are not better times. It is time to trim the fat, and look after our own first, and as a voting citizen, this is what I demand from Barack O'Bummer and Joe Bite Me.
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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    Saudi Arabia would be nothing without us.

    We just picked one of their random tribal warlords and gave him tanks, that's why they like us now.
    Might wanna consider reading a little history there...how they came to power, alliances with Bedouins, etc...

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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    At the same time it would be a good idea for the EU to stop the welfare bailouts of countries like Spain.
    What welfare bailouts?
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