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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Two words: Posse Comitatus
    Irrelevant. The job of securing the borders is a job of the military. Some law enacted to appeases crybabies who lost the civil war is irrelevant to the fact the troops would be guarding the border not enforcing state and local laws. Besides that its not enshrined in the constitution and those crybabies who lost the civil war are no longer around,so if Posse Comitatus actually applied to the US border the law can be easily modified.
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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Rand Paul is right, end welfare to all countries we give foreign aid to. When you are in the hole the last thing you do is give money away. It doesn't make any sense to be giving money away when you are in debt and even if we were not in debt we still shouldn't be telling the tax payers to work their asses off just so the government can give it away to other countries.
    You can cut aid, but you cannot end it unless there is a commitment to a more isolationist policy from the White House. Whether or not Congress would do this, the WH will not end all aid to Israel and think about that for a second.... since the 1948 war.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    You can cut aid, but you cannot end it unless there is a commitment to a more isolationist policy from the White House. Whether or not Congress would do this, the WH will not end all aid to Israel and think about that for a second.... since the 1948 war.
    Since when is ending welfare akin to isolationism?
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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Rand Paul is a jew hater....

    aint that the usual comment when suggesting such things?

    As for the principle of stop funding Israel.. great idea. It would save the US a few dollars, but the reality of the situation is that most money comes from the Jewish community in the US and through "good trade deals". Direct aid is small change, but highly symbolic.

    And over all US direct aid is also.. small change. You could probably save much more by just stopping earmarks.
    a "Jew hater"

    any proof of that?



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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Rand Paul is right, end welfare to all countries we give foreign aid to. When you are in the hole the last thing you do is give money away. It doesn't make any sense to be giving money away when you are in debt and even if we were not in debt we still shouldn't be telling the tax payers to work their asses off just so the government can give it away to other countries.
    I think we should but Spain loose. With their economy and employment outlook, I'm sure they'll have no problem.
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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I would be for shifting those troops stationed Germany and other countries to stationing them on the US border.
    Good idea let's do it.

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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I think mostly its to stir up the people whose mouths are on Israel's scrotum in order to peg Rand Paul as a anti-Semite. The con-artists on the Trinity Broad Casting network, the con-artist masquerading as preachers as well as certian politicians can go look he opposes funding Israel so he must hate the jews or other republicans can go he must want Israel to go the Muslims.
    Israel has a scrotum?
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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Epic fail of a post.
    Any thought behind your comment or just another troller?

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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    a "Jew hater"

    any proof of that?
    You need to realize WHY Pete introduces this subtext. Many of the other dogmatic Euro extreme leftists do likewise.

    By doing so, they can then make the claim that other people have actually done so, and bring out their mantra in regards to "you can't say anything about Israel without being accused of antisemitism". It is all very dishonest, very predictable, and it does seem to fool many of the less intelligent posters who then join them in accusing those who haven't done so of pulling out the antisemite card.
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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Since when is ending welfare akin to isolationism?
    It's a step towards it. Aid is influence, and letting Israel hang out there to be pounded into extinction isn't in our best interest as a nation. I can see cutting back, or in some country's stopping it, but without sufficient influence, our nation would be relinquishing influence. Maybe you're okay with that across the board; I'm not. My view is, cut aid where it makes sense not end it, and if you want to be economically and fiscally conscious great: close down 30-40% of all overseas military bases. Good will aid to disasters etc., isn't welfare in my mind, it's charity on a national scale. In some area's like Israel, I wouldn't be in favor of cutting off their aid.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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