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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Rand Paul is right, end welfare to all countries we give foreign aid to. When you are in the hole the last thing you do is give money away. It doesn't make any sense to be giving money away when you are in debt and even if we were not in debt we still shouldn't be telling the tax payers to work their asses off just so the government can give it away to other countries.
    I have no problem with getting rid of all foreign aid. That should also include military bases in places like Germany. Are we still there to stop Russian tanks. He would cut a paltry 18 billion from 600-700 defense budget. So he is just shifting money around not making the cuts we really need.

    If he had said cut defense by 100-200 billion per year he would have been credible.

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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Aid to Israel as a percentage of our total foreign aid has been dropping in recent years. It represented approximately 5% in 2008, while it was over 15% in 2001.

    http://www.census.gov/compendia/stat...es/11s1298.pdf

    Why people would focus on the 5% while ignoring the 95% is anybody's guess, but if arguments are truly driven by economics, then there is little reason to focus so heavily on Israel.
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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Aid to Israel as a percentage of our total foreign aid has been dropping in recent years. It represented approximately 5% in 2008, while it was over 15% in 2001.

    http://www.census.gov/compendia/stat...es/11s1298.pdf

    Why people would focus on the 5% while ignoring the 95% is anybody's guess, but if arguments are truly driven by economics, then there is little reason to focus so heavily on Israel.
    It is this new senator's way of getting cheap attention. What is new about a senator from the south taking a shot at jews or blacks? Probably make him a presidential candidate.

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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    It is this new senator's way of getting cheap attention. What is new about a senator from the south taking a shot at jews or blacks? Probably make him a presidential candidate.
    Epic fail of a post.

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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Aid to Israel as a percentage of our total foreign aid has been dropping in recent years. It represented approximately 5% in 2008, while it was over 15% in 2001.

    http://www.census.gov/compendia/stat...es/11s1298.pdf

    Why people would focus on the 5% while ignoring the 95% is anybody's guess, but if arguments are truly driven by economics, then there is little reason to focus so heavily on Israel.
    Because that 5% is the most controversial part, the bloke in the OP said to stop all foreign aid, it was just the reporter that focussed on Israel.
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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Epic fail of a post.
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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    I have no problem with getting rid of all foreign aid. That should also include military bases in places like Germany. Are we still there to stop Russian tanks. He would cut a paltry 18 billion from 600-700 defense budget. So he is just shifting money around not making the cuts we really need.

    If he had said cut defense by 100-200 billion per year he would have been credible.
    I would be for shifting those troops stationed Germany and other countries to stationing them on the US border.
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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I would be for shifting those troops stationed Germany and other countries to stationing them on the US border.
    Agree. We have something like 1000 foreign military bases that could also be reduced greatly. But we aren't going to see this ever happening no matter if it is herd of donkeys or herd of elephants running the show.

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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I would be for shifting those troops stationed Germany and other countries to stationing them on the US border.
    Two words: Posse Comitatus

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    Re: Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Aid to Israel as a percentage of our total foreign aid has been dropping in recent years. It represented approximately 5% in 2008, while it was over 15% in 2001.

    http://www.census.gov/compendia/stat...es/11s1298.pdf

    Why people would focus on the 5% while ignoring the 95% is anybody's guess, but if arguments are truly driven by economics, then there is little reason to focus so heavily on Israel.
    I think mostly its to stir up the people whose mouths are on Israel's scrotum in order to peg Rand Paul as a anti-Semite. The con-artists on the Trinity Broad Casting network, the con-artist masquerading as preachers as well as certian politicians can go look he opposes funding Israel so he must hate the jews or other republicans can go he must want Israel to go the Muslims.
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