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    Re: John boehner sex probe

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    What is REAL journalism? Who are the REAL journalists?
    Real Journalism =

    Sincerity, Truthfulness, Accuracy— Good faith with the reader is the foundation of all journalism worthy of the name.
    A. By every consideration of good faith, a newspaper is constrained to be truthful. It is not to be excused for lack of thoroughness, or accuracy within its control, or failure to obtain command of these essential qualities.
    B. Headlines should be fully warranted by the contents of the articles which they surmount.

    Impartiality— Sound practice makes clear distinction between news reports and expressions of opinion. News reports should be free from opinion or bias of any kind. This rule does not apply to so-called special articles unmistakably devoted to advocacy or characterized by a signature authorizing the writer’s own conclusions and interpretations.

    Fair Play— A newspaper should not publish unofficial charges affecting reputation or moral character, without opportunity given to the accused to be heard; right practice demands the giving of such opportunity in all cases of serious accusation outside judicial proceedings.
    A. A newspaper should no invade rights of private feelings without sure warren of public right as distinguished from public curiosity.
    B. It is the privilege, as it is the duty, of a newspaper to make prompt and complete correction of its own serious mistakes of fact or opinion, whatever their origin.

    Decency— A newspaper cannot escape conviction of insincerity if, while professing high moral purpose, it supplies incentives to base conduct, such as are to be found in details of crime and vice, publication of which is not demonstrably for the general good. Lacking authority to enforce its canons, the journalism here represented can but express the hope that deliberate pandering to vicious instincts will encounter effective public disapproval or yield to the influence of a preponderant professional condemnation.


    Real Journalists = Those who hold to the canons of journalism (see above).
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: John boehner sex probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Real Journalism =

    Sincerity, Truthfulness, Accuracy— Good faith with the reader is the foundation of all journalism worthy of the name.
    A. By every consideration of good faith, a newspaper is constrained to be truthful. It is not to be excused for lack of thoroughness, or accuracy within its control, or failure to obtain command of these essential qualities.
    B. Headlines should be fully warranted by the contents of the articles which they surmount.

    Impartiality— Sound practice makes clear distinction between news reports and expressions of opinion. News reports should be free from opinion or bias of any kind. This rule does not apply to so-called special articles unmistakably devoted to advocacy or characterized by a signature authorizing the writer’s own conclusions and interpretations.

    Fair Play— A newspaper should not publish unofficial charges affecting reputation or moral character, without opportunity given to the accused to be heard; right practice demands the giving of such opportunity in all cases of serious accusation outside judicial proceedings.
    A. A newspaper should no invade rights of private feelings without sure warren of public right as distinguished from public curiosity.
    B. It is the privilege, as it is the duty, of a newspaper to make prompt and complete correction of its own serious mistakes of fact or opinion, whatever their origin.

    Decency— A newspaper cannot escape conviction of insincerity if, while professing high moral purpose, it supplies incentives to base conduct, such as are to be found in details of crime and vice, publication of which is not demonstrably for the general good. Lacking authority to enforce its canons, the journalism here represented can but express the hope that deliberate pandering to vicious instincts will encounter effective public disapproval or yield to the influence of a preponderant professional condemnation.


    Real Journalists = Those who hold to the canons of journalism (see above).
    so there really are standards? from what I read and hear, most of our reporters are mere repeaters....not sure if that is journalism...
    ONE question remains....

    WHO, by name, can be called journalists, and how close to they come close to meeting the standards????
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    Re: John boehner sex probe

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    so there really are standards? from what I read and hear, most of our reporters are mere repeaters....not sure if that is journalism...
    ONE question remains....

    WHO, by name, can be called journalists, and how close to they come close to meeting the standards????
    I don't know who could be called that any more. But those are the canons of journalism - there's also a whole journalistic ethics and integrity portion which was too long to address. I don't know if such people exist as the money is made in hocking opinions these days, at least on a national level.

    When I watch my local Philadelphia stations (local news) on TV, or I read my local newspapers - they tend to be more straight news, "just the facts" type of delivery. Very little opinion is thrown in unless it's a human interest story.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: John boehner sex probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I don't know who could be called that any more. But those are the canons of journalism - there's also a whole journalistic ethics and integrity portion which was too long to address. I don't know if such people exist as the money is made in hocking opinions these days, at least on a national level.

    When I watch my local Philadelphia stations (local news) on TV, or I read my local newspapers - they tend to be more straight news, "just the facts" type of delivery. Very little opinion is thrown in unless it's a human interest story.
    According to Gordon Murray, recently deceased Wall street banker, we once had standards on Wall street as well, back in the 70's.
    I read a while back that wall street tycoons before the great crash PAID the media to tout their stocks. It wasn't much of a secret, except to the small investors...
    There it is, the media, wall street, and politicians, all screwing us.
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    Re: John boehner sex probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Real Journalism =

    Sincerity, Truthfulness, Accuracy— Good faith with the reader is the foundation of all journalism worthy of the name.
    A. By every consideration of good faith, a newspaper is constrained to be truthful. It is not to be excused for lack of thoroughness, or accuracy within its control, or failure to obtain command of these essential qualities.
    B. Headlines should be fully warranted by the contents of the articles which they surmount.

    Impartiality— Sound practice makes clear distinction between news reports and expressions of opinion. News reports should be free from opinion or bias of any kind. This rule does not apply to so-called special articles unmistakably devoted to advocacy or characterized by a signature authorizing the writer’s own conclusions and interpretations.

    Fair Play— A newspaper should not publish unofficial charges affecting reputation or moral character, without opportunity given to the accused to be heard; right practice demands the giving of such opportunity in all cases of serious accusation outside judicial proceedings.
    A. A newspaper should no invade rights of private feelings without sure warren of public right as distinguished from public curiosity.
    B. It is the privilege, as it is the duty, of a newspaper to make prompt and complete correction of its own serious mistakes of fact or opinion, whatever their origin.

    Decency— A newspaper cannot escape conviction of insincerity if, while professing high moral purpose, it supplies incentives to base conduct, such as are to be found in details of crime and vice, publication of which is not demonstrably for the general good. Lacking authority to enforce its canons, the journalism here represented can but express the hope that deliberate pandering to vicious instincts will encounter effective public disapproval or yield to the influence of a preponderant professional condemnation.


    Real Journalists = Those who hold to the canons of journalism (see above).
    the media arm of the reich wing possesses none of those traits
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    Re: John boehner sex probe

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    i think it is more likely true than not
    but nowhere do i see that Obama is accused of having affairs outside of his marriage as this thread implies boner has committed ... a la john edwards
    for that reason, i do not see where your article has bearing on this thread - other than to divert it away from a discussion of boner's alleged sexual misdeeds with the two women who were not his wife
    So, Clinton did deserve to be impeached?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: John boehner sex probe

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, Clinton did deserve to be impeached?
    oh hell no
    but he should have been smart enough to tell the truth when asked ... or to have said 'none of your business'
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    Re: John boehner sex probe

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    oh hell no
    but he should have been smart enough to tell the truth when asked ... or to have said 'none of your business'
    ohhhhhhhhh, so he didn't get impeached because he got his cock sucked in the Oval Office and instead for committing perjury?

    Is that going to be the story, now?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: John boehner sex probe

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    ohhhhhhhhh, so he didn't get impeached because he got his cock sucked in the Oval Office and instead for committing perjury?

    Is that going to be the story, now?
    That has always been the story... unless one is too lazy to read the actual articles of impeachment. He was impeached for perjury, not getting a damned blowjob. Fair enough, it might have been a bit before your time, but google is free and easy. Try it!

    As for Bohner's sex life, I not only don't care about it, I honestly don't even want to think about it. Unfortunately, if his mistress was a lobbyist... *sigh*... then the stupid horn-dog deserves scrutiny for a potential conflict of interest liason. Which means I'm gonna hear about it, and have the image burned into my brain.

    Politicians should be neutered before taking the oath of office. That is all.
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    Re: John boehner sex probe

    Ah, this is just a stupid thread all together, in today's society, a married person having an affair, is akin to jaywalking, it means nothing, if true, just come out and admit it, give your fake most humble apology, put up with the two weeks of media flash, then get on with things, you can call it right, or wrong, but it's the way things are today. People just don't give a S**t about such things anymore.

    If it's false, let it play out, then sue ..

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