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    Re: John boehner sex probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Clinton made two mistakes in the Lewinski case:

    First one was in not keeping his pants zipped in the first place, but we all know that.

    The second one was in not looking his questioners in the face when asked about it and saying, "That is none of your damn business. Next question."

    The president of the US made an error in judgment, which precipitated a scandal, just as it should. Bad judgment on the part of the president is not something to be taken lightly. When Nixon made the bad judgment of trying to protect his supporters who were guilty of burglary, he was impeached and lost his presidency, after all.

    Still, neither Lewinski nor Watergate was the major scandal of the 20th. century. Neither one jeopardized the Constitution or involved treason. That one has to have been the incident in which arms were sold to an enemy of the United States and the proceeds used to subvert the will of Congress. That one did jeopardize the Constitution, and did involve treason, and deserves the title of "worst scandal of the 20th. century."
    Heck...Ive already said...I dont know which came first...the chicken or being married to Hillary, but I dont know that I blame him for catting around. And I've also said all things considered, I think he did a decent job as president.

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    Re: John boehner sex probe

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    So he CAN practice law?
    That was a completely separate case from the Jones case.

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    Re: John boehner sex probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    That was a completely separate case from the Jones case.
    right...because he committed perjury in the Jones case

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    Re: John boehner sex probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    False. Civil settlements have no bearing on criminal proceedings.
    I guess I was not clear enough. Let me try again.
    Following Clinton's settlement with Jones federal prosecutors were going to prosecute him for actions stemming from the Jones case. Like I said before.

    In order to avoid being federally prosecuted Clinton entered in his agreement that saved him from prosecution. Then rather than face disbarment he resigned. Simply put those are the facts. They still have not changed. I suppose it is possible he might not have been convicted. I think he knew that there was a pretty good chance he would not only be convicted of perjury but possibly obstruction of justice as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    So he CAN practice law?
    No he never reapplied for reinstatement as far as I know. I think he had to wait five years before he could do that. You are correct and Tucker is not. ALL of this stems from the Jones suit. It is seriously not even debatable.
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    Re: John boehner sex probe

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    right
    Now that we have acertained that there were two settlemtns for two different cases, look at the statment I was actually responding to where someone erroneously claimed that the settlement of that case was a part of the Jones settlement, as well as my comments about justice being served in the Jones case and tell me again who the hacks in this discussion are.

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    Re: John boehner sex probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Zaserac View Post
    I guess I was not clear enough. Let me try again.
    Following Clinton's settlement with Jones federal prosecutors were going to prosecute him for actions stemming from the Jones case. Like I said before.

    In order to avoid being federally prosecuted Clinton entered in his agreement that saved him from prosecution. Then rather than face disbarment he resigned. Simply put those are the facts. They still have not changed. I suppose it is possible he might not have been convicted. I think he knew that there was a pretty good chance he would not only be convicted of perjury but possibly obstruction of justice as well.
    Let me be clear, you were responding to a comment I made about justice being served in the jones case. When you bring up an entirely different case and portray it ads being a part of the settlement of the jones case as a way of rebutting my comment, you are not rebuitting what I have been saying, but instead perpetrating pure distortions of reality.

    Whether or not you feel that justice was served in the subsequent case that had nothing to do with Jones has no bearing on the fact that Justice was indeed servd in th eJones case, wher eth eperjury occured, thu proving that the perjury did not have a detrimental effect on justic ebeing served. The key is that jones got exactly what she was asking for. To claim that justice was obstructed seems to be prety silly when the claimant got exactly what was requested, no?

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    Re: John boehner sex probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Now that we have acertained that there were two settlemtns for two different cases, look at the statment I was actually responding to where someone erroneously claimed that the settlement of that case was a part of the Jones settlement, as well as my comments about justice being served in the Jones case and tell me again who the hacks in this discussion are.
    Oh no...you arent a hack...you are a Haymarket...marked difference. You are as bad as Clinton spending 30 posts trying to obfuscate what the meaning of 'obvious' is. Your schtick is pretty boring, frankly, you do it on a pretty regular basis. Clinton lied under oath. He was impeached for perjury and obstruction. You dont think he was lying to obstruct. I do. Then you want to make it personal by calling me a liar. I think I pretty successfully avoided the personal response back...because again...you just arent that interesting.

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    Re: John boehner sex probe

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Oh no...you arent a hack...you are a Haymarket...marked difference. You are as bad as Clinton spending 30 posts trying to obfuscate what the meaning of 'obvious' is. Your schtick is pretty boring, frankly, you do it on a pretty regular basis. Clinton lied under oath. He was impeached for perjury and obstruction. You dont think he was lying to obstruct. I do.
    You decided to claim that your opinion and guesses were OBVIOUSLY examples of something that was actually conjecture on your part.

    You later admitted that you were guessing about why it was obstruction, which shows you knew for fact that your previous claim about it being obvious was not true, and therefore it was a lie.

    Don't get all pissy if you get called on telling lies.

    Then you want to make it personal by calling me a liar.
    This is another lie. I never once called you a liar.

    When you understand the difference between the first sentence I just wrote and the second one, you'll understand that I've never once made it perosnal in this discussion.

    Calling your claim a "lie", and the utterance of such a claim "lying" is very different form calling you a liar.

    I think I pretty successfully avoided the personal response back...because again...you just arent that interesting.
    Sure, calling me haymarket and saying I'm not interesting isn't a personal response, but calling a lie a lie is making it personal and calling the utterance of lies "lying" is personal as well.


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    Re: John boehner sex probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Let me be clear, you were responding to a comment I made about justice being served in the jones case. When you bring up an entirely different case and portray it ads being a part of the settlement of the jones case as a way of rebutting my comment, you are not rebuitting what I have been saying, but instead perpetrating pure distortions of reality.

    Whether or not you feel that justice was served in the subsequent case that had nothing to do with Jones has no bearing on the fact that Justice was indeed servd in th eJones case, wher eth eperjury occured, thu proving that the perjury did not have a detrimental effect on justic ebeing served. The key is that jones got exactly what she was asking for. To claim that justice was obstructed seems to be prety silly when the claimant got exactly what was requested, no?
    The name calling certainly must have made you feel better. Meanwhile, I was not rebutting your comment. I was responding to the conversation. Which I did not realize had already gotten pissy. My bad. I can see how pointing out the fact that it was all to do with Jones case and using the phrase "stems from" blew the pressure corker for you. Good day.

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    Re: John boehner sex probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    You decided to claim that your opinion and guesses were OBVIOUSLY examples of something that was actually conjecture on your part.

    You later admitted that you were guessing about why it was obstruction, which shows you knew for fact that your previous claim about it being obvious was not true, and therefore it was a lie.

    Don't get all pissy if you get called on telling lies.



    This is another lie. I never once called you a liar.

    When you understand the difference between the first sentence I just wrote and the second one, you'll understand that I've never once made it perosnal in this discussion.

    Calling your claim a "lie", and the utterance of such a claim "lying" is very different form calling you a liar.



    Sure, calling me haymarket and saying I'm not interesting isn't a personal response, but calling a lie a lie is making it personal and calling the utterance of lies "lying" is personal as well.

    Precisely what I said...your arguments are sad and you are just...well...boring...

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