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    Re: Exclusive: Rumsfeld unloads

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    There's no way you can say that with any amount of credibility, unless you have a crystal ball.
    It doesn't take a crystal ball to see that Western oil had been banned from Iraq for 36 years until our invasion and occupation.
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    Re: Exclusive: Rumsfeld unloads

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yes, we do know that. From intelligence reports we know Saddam's military capacity was destroyed in 1991 and the 700 inspections made until 2002 confirmed there was no threat.
    Those are predicitions of what could happen in the future? They aren't. Are they?

    You can't say that Saddam was never going to be a real threat, again. There are zero facts to support that, because none of you have a crystal ball.
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    Re: Exclusive: Rumsfeld unloads

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Those are predicitions of what could happen in the future? They aren't. Are they?

    You can't say that Saddam was never going to be a real threat, again. There are zero facts to support that, because none of you have a crystal ball.
    Nobody has a crystall ball. You don't know if a particular state will be a threat far into the future, or if it won't. Any state could become a potential threat in the future, by your logic we might as well just invade every other country and take over the world and have perfect security just in case.

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    Re: Exclusive: Rumsfeld unloads

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Nobody has a crystall ball. You don't know if a particular state will be a threat far into the future, or if it won't. Any state could become a potential threat in the future, by your logic we might as well just invade every other country and take over the world and have perfect security just in case.
    We know--now--that Iraq won't be a threat in the future. There's no way to argue with that.
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    Re: Exclusive: Rumsfeld unloads

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You don't know that. Saddam had already attempted to assissinate Bush Sr. You have no idea what was going to happen, if Saddam remained in power.
    And that went real well. Yes, we know this. We knew it before we went in. You don't take a real threat as easily as we took Iraq.

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    Re: Exclusive: Rumsfeld unloads

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We know--now--that Iraq won't be a threat in the future. There's no way to argue with that.
    I still see the potential, however minor, for Iraq to fall back into a civil war and perhaps once again becoming a breeding ground for extremism. Even if we do absolutely know for sure that Iraq won't be a threat in the future, I would argue that the price for "making sure" wasn't worth it.

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    Re: Exclusive: Rumsfeld unloads

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We know--now--that Iraq won't be a threat in the future. There's no way to argue with that.
    Actually, we don't know that. Iraq has closer ties to Iran now. That could threaten us far more than Saddam did. Yes, as noted above, civil war could still happen. They could easily elect people far less friendly than even Saddam was. Remember, it was actually the Kurds who worked with Al Qaeda, and not Saddam.

    The war could have made things worse for us. That could end up being the case.

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    Re: Exclusive: Rumsfeld unloads

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Those are predicitions of what could happen in the future? They aren't. Are they?

    You can't say that Saddam was never going to be a real threat, again. There are zero facts to support that, because none of you have a crystal ball.
    Iraq was not a threat when we attacked them. Saddam was a fat old man with a shotgun and no WMD as the 700 inspections made confirmed. No crystal ball required.
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    Re: Exclusive: Rumsfeld unloads

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I don't think I ever said that, but hey, believe what you want.
    Why do you assume everything is in reply to you?
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