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    Re: Exclusive: Rumsfeld unloads

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    We forgot how to fight a war after World War II.
    I think we just forgot what constitutes a valid reason for going to war.
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    Re: Exclusive: Rumsfeld unloads

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    We started fighting wars "humanely", which is used against us by the opposition, which doesn't give a crap.

    When you fight a war, you bomb the crap out of everything in sight and kill tons of people. You use the same reasoning as when we hit Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Then, you win. We don't do that anymore, which is why we don't win anymore.
    Impressive, the only country to ever use nuclear weapons against citizens! Whoohoo!!! Makes you want to stand up and wave the flag over that one!
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    Re: Exclusive: Rumsfeld unloads

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Great man Rummy, and his bit about not wanting to be in the same foxhole as Clinton, Kerry, Biden is a kind way of saying they're treasonous, politically motivated back stabbers.
    Rumsfeld was never in a foxhole with anyone. He served in the navy during peacetime.

    Speaking of politically motivated back stabbing...



    How the left voted to send troops for political expediency, and then when things got tough...
    By getting tough do you mean the lies about WMDs came to light?

    Should prove an interesting read, especially for the Leftists here and abroad.
    Bookstores should stock this one in the fiction or fantasy section.

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    Re: Exclusive: Rumsfeld unloads

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You offered erroneous input.
    Really? Are you claiming that politics did not figure heavily into WW2 strategy?
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    Re: Exclusive: Rumsfeld unloads

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    There are two options for actors in a war. 1) they can officially surrender, because they lost their will and means to carry on the fight, or 2) they can just cease to exist, because they've lost the will and means to carry on the war.
    Remember, as new angery people join the fight, angry over what has been done to those they love and what they care for, having them lose the will is more difficult than beating a nation. How long have Israel and Palistine been going at it? To borrow from somethng I read once, if force alone could end this type of thing, Israel would have ended that conflict long ago. Perhaps sometimes you have to be smart more than powerful.

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    Re: Exclusive: Rumsfeld unloads

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Really? Are you claiming that politics did not figure heavily into WW2 strategy?
    I don't think I ever said that, but hey, believe what you want.
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    Re: Exclusive: Rumsfeld unloads

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I think we just forgot what constitutes a valid reason for going to war.
    And, what would that be? Wait until things are totally out of control and the war costs tens of millions of lives?
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    Re: Exclusive: Rumsfeld unloads

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, what would that be? Wait until things are totally out of control and the war costs tens of millions of lives?
    How about a country that presents an actual threat to us?
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    Re: Exclusive: Rumsfeld unloads

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    How about a country that presents an actual threat to us?
    Even, if we wait until things are totally out of control and the war costs tens of millions of lives?

    That's what we did prior to WW2 and nearly a half million Americans died. Now, hindsight being 20/20, do you think it was a good call to wait?
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    Re: Exclusive: Rumsfeld unloads

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Remember, as new angery people join the fight, angry over what has been done to those they love and what they care for, having them lose the will is more difficult than beating a nation. How long have Israel and Palistine been going at it? To borrow from somethng I read once, if force alone could end this type of thing, Israel would have ended that conflict long ago. Perhaps sometimes you have to be smart more than powerful.
    The more angry people that fight against us, the more people we'll have to kill, until they don't feel the need to be angry, anymore.

    History shows that your strategy doesn't work.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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