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    Re: Obama may get power to shut down Internet without court oversight

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    The bill does NOT give Obama any special power to simply shut off the internet,.

    The Canadian thing has nothing to do with governmental powers over shuttign the internet, it has to do with charging through the nose for access.

    Dude, I dislike Obama's policies more than you can imagine... but imagine is the correct word here.

    You're imagining things.
    We shall see. If it works in Canada and the government gets money it will come here. Both are about control and we all know we have a control freak in the White House

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    Re: Obama may get power to shut down Internet without court oversight

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    We shall see. If it works in Canada and the government gets money it will come here. Both are about control and we all know we have a control freak in the White House
    explain to me what about the Canada situation gives the President control over the Internet?

    Answer... nothing... it gives ISP's control.

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    Re: Obama may get power to shut down Internet without court oversight

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    explain to me what about the Canada situation gives the President control over the Internet?

    Answer... nothing... it gives ISP's control.

    How many taxes will be involved

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    Re: Obama may get power to shut down Internet without court oversight

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    How many taxes will be involved
    wtf does that have to do with it? Taxes suddenly give Obama the ability to shut down the internet?

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    Re: Obama may get power to shut down Internet without court oversight

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    wtf does that have to do with it? Taxes suddenly give Obama the ability to shut down the internet?
    He would control supply and be able to shut it down. Metered would be under government control. Otherwise why would the government care

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    Re: Obama may get power to shut down Internet without court oversight

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    He would control supply and be able to shut it down. Metered would be under government control. Otherwise why would the government care
    How would metered internet be under government control, when the ISP's are privately held?

    I'm beginning to think this thread belongs under Conspiracy Theory

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    Re: Obama may get power to shut down Internet without court oversight

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    How would metered internet be under government control, when the ISP's are privately held?

    I'm beginning to think this thread belongs under Conspiracy Theory
    It had to be approved by the government. From my link

    But like it or not, the Canadian Radio-Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) approved UBB for the incumbent carrier Bell Canada in September. Competitive ISPs, which connect to Canada's top telco for last-mile copper connections to customers, will also be metered by Bell. Even though the CRTC gave these ISPs a 15 percent discount this month (TekSavvy asked for 50 percent), it's still going to mean a real adjustment for consumers.

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    Re: Obama may get power to shut down Internet without court oversight

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    It had to be approved by the government. From my link

    But like it or not, the Canadian Radio-Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) approved UBB for the incumbent carrier Bell Canada in September. Competitive ISPs, which connect to Canada's top telco for last-mile copper connections to customers, will also be metered by Bell. Even though the CRTC gave these ISPs a 15 percent discount this month (TekSavvy asked for 50 percent), it's still going to mean a real adjustment for consumers.
    doesn't really answer my question. How would this give the government power to shut off the internet?

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    Re: Obama may get power to shut down Internet without court oversight

    The Patriot Act and Internet Kill Switches: The Devil Is In The Extensions | Integrity Legal Blog

    The question must be posed: is the controversy surrounding this bill legitimate or simply “misinformation”? Clearly under such a scheme, as stated above, the President would have some sort of “Emergency Powers” over the internet pursuant to the language of this bill. What is most ominous to this blogger is the notion that abridgment of freedom (both online and in the real world) is okay so long as it only occurs in 120 day spurts. Furthermore, at first blush, the provisions regarding restriction and Congressional extension would seem to mitigate the rather broad powers being granted to the President and the Federal government, but, in this blogger’s opinion, these measures are chimerical as can be seen by the Congressional actions which have consistently resulted in extension of the Patriot Act (a bill which also had sunset provisions, but provided Congress with the ability to make extensions). Does the American Constitution and Bill of Rights not clearly state that those enumerated powers not expressly granted to the Federal government are to remain with the States and the People respectively? If so, then why has the Federal government continued to usurp, or in the case of the “kill switch,” attempted to usurp; State and individual rights to liberty and the free access to information? In fact, it would seem that this bill is expressly intended to obstruct the free flow of information during a time of crisis, which some would argue, is the exact time when people would need such information the most. Perhaps the reasoning behind this bill cannot be fully discussed within the confines of this blog post, but readers can still ponder these questions while researching these issues.
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    Re: Obama may get power to shut down Internet without court oversight

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    You know, Bush tried the same thing when he was in office, and Liberals raised so much hell over it that the plan was dropped. Where is the Liberal outrage now? The idea is just as repugnant now as it was then, but should a "D" after one's name give him a pass? Hell no!
    Bush? Yup, Bush did it! Bush was a real bastard, that one.
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