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    Re: Ron Paul, Ralph Nader agree on ‘progressive-libertarian alliance’

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    Now combined they will get 5% of the totally vote. A force to be reckoned with.
    Sorry but I really do NOT think Nader is capable of getting 4.5% of the vote.
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    Re: Ron Paul, Ralph Nader agree on ‘progressive-libertarian alliance’

    Both groups believe in government accountability so it makes sense.
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    Re: Ron Paul, Ralph Nader agree on ‘progressive-libertarian alliance’

    When I took the Nolan Chart I ranked as a left-leaning libertarian. I think the alliance of Nader and Paul resembles the odd combination of my beliefs, at least to some extent, which I personally define as being "protectionist moderate-libertarian". What I mean by that is, I believe in moderate libertarianism, which I define as very socially liberal policies with a significant reduction in the size of government, spending and taxes, but not the near total annihilation of government like true libertarians advocate. The exceptions to this would only come in the form of protection. Most all of us believe the governments job is to protect the rights of humans, but I also believe it should protect the rights of animals, the environment and unborn fetuses. Any laws and regulations that are not truly protectionist and simply "protect people from themselves" so-to-speak such as prostitution and drug use, should be eliminated. Also, the very isolationist policy both men stand for is right in line with my left-leaning libertarianism.

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    Re: Ron Paul, Ralph Nader agree on ‘progressive-libertarian alliance’

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Neither. it's because I think both their ideas are way out of the mainstream of America.
    So it is because you strongly disagree with them. Has it ever occurred to you that the mainstream of Ameircan political thought might not be what is best for the people of this country?
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    Re: Ron Paul, Ralph Nader agree on ‘progressive-libertarian alliance’

    one thing that the last two years have made patently clear, the true political battles are between the extremes on both sides vs the two parties and the moderates. a lot of people hoped obama would get us out of war and get the bankers out of politics (a lot of us knew he wouldn't). when it's proven that both parties are for unprovoked foreign wars for natural resources and both parties are for bankers and businessmen running the government, of course the extremes are gonna join together to try to stop this madness. good luck to them, if they succeed, then we can get back to bickering over relatively unimportant things, such as the seating chart at the state of the union.
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    Re: Ron Paul, Ralph Nader agree on ‘progressive-libertarian alliance’

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    He is not as nuts as Paul, but I stand by my comment that he is nuts: Political Issues that Matter - Ralph Nader's Views on the Issues
    Just because he has totally different beliefs than mainstream politicians doesn't make him nuts. He does have some good ideas.
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    Re: Ron Paul, Ralph Nader agree on ‘progressive-libertarian alliance’

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    So it is because you strongly disagree with them. Has it ever occurred to you that the mainstream of Ameircan political thought might not be what is best for the people of this country?
    I think it is wise for the American people to decide what is best for them.
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    Re: Ron Paul, Ralph Nader agree on ‘progressive-libertarian alliance’

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I think it is wise for the American people to decide what is best for them.
    How's that working for us so far?

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    Re: Ron Paul, Ralph Nader agree on ‘progressive-libertarian alliance’

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I think it is wise for the American people to decide what is best for them.
    Except the American people do not decide what is best for them. The elites decide what is best for them and let the American people think it is actually their idea.
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    Re: Ron Paul, Ralph Nader agree on ‘progressive-libertarian alliance’

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Neither. it's because I think both their ideas are way out of the mainstream of America.
    So according to you we should just follow along with what everyone else thinks? Should we not question things? Or exprese other ideas?

    Well I guess theres that saying " ignorance is bliss" maybe we should just all shut up and follow in line with everyone else........
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