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Keith Olbermann announces tonight's Countdown as his last show!

Quick... someone start a 3rd related thread.. I wanna see if hay's head implodes from trying to defend Olbermaan in three threads at once ;)
 
LuckyDan said:
Can't agree. Say what you want about Hannity, but he is not mean-spirited. KO is just plain, freaking mean. He belongs on a message board, not a television.
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We're back to Beck again, not Olbermann :)
 
Whovian said:
you JUST said this...


You obviously are implying that Olbermann has now somehow had his right to free speech infringed in some way. He does not HAVe a right to a cable show. He is still free to express his opinions where ever he can.
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Please do not interpret. It only makes you look silly while you construct your strawman. At least Ray Bolger could dance and entertain us.

Your extremely narrow view only serves the corporate right wing interests so ably assisted by things like the Citizens United ruling and tonights events. But I suspect that is your true intention all along.
 
Whovian said:
Countdown with Keith Olbermann - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

quick... before they remove the change! :rofl:
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Ohhh, dat's not a pretty picture.....

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Whovian said:
Quick... someone start a 3rd related thread.. I wanna see if hay's head implodes from trying to defend Olbermaan in three threads at once ;)
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Obviously, I am more talented that you are.
 
LuckyDan said:
Purpose? Ratings for one, which I think will be higher if the commentary is understandable, at least somewhat insightful, and responsible. I saw KO only when someone would post a video, or when another show would quote him.
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Agreed that ratings do play a major role.

Buckley's show used to be on my local PBS station on Sunday mornings. Once a week. Fox opinion shows are on every night. If WFB were still around and taping, I would still watch him AND Fox. AND listen to Prager and Medved and Levin on the radio. Which is to say you can have both.
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Again I agree that a person is most informed when they get news from multiple sources. And yes it does hurt when shows are on only once a week and it hurts even more when it is Sunday mornings.

I don't agree with the line that good ratings equate to lack of substance. There's nothing wrong with being informative AND entertaining.
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I agree to a point. When you start skipping on information to be entertaining than you have a problem. When you, like most pundits do, only give half a story to pull in viewers that want to listen because you are suiting their agenda than you have a problem. And that is part of my problem with pundits. They sell these half stories as the truth just to gain viewers that agree to their political lean.
 
haymarket said:
Please do not interpret. It only makes you look silly while you construct your strawman. At least Ray Bolger could dance and entertain us.

Your extremely narrow view only serves the corporate right wing interests so ably assisted by things like the Citizens United ruling and tonights events. But I suspect that is your true intention all along.
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you are so full of ****...lol.. You said that in direct reference to Olbermann no longer having a cable show to voice his retarded opinions on... and you say 'I' am creating a strawman?

Any shred of credibility you may have had just died.
 
Whovian said:
you are so full of ****...lol.. You said that in direct reference to Olbermann no longer having a cable show to voice his retarded opinions on... and you say 'I' am creating a strawman?

Any shred of credibility you may have had just died.
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You serve your corporate allies very well. They would be proud. Perhaps a basket of corporate goodies will be laid upon your doorstep as a demonstration of their appreciation. Or perhaps you will merely have to settle with the usual pat on the head and 'thats a good boy'.

Again, you sound more an more like one of those people who justify the silencing of their opponents by taking the most narrow view possible but when their own ox is gored its an entirely different thing.
 
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soccerboy22 said:
Agreed that ratings do play a major role.



Again I agree that a person is most informed when they get news from multiple sources. And yes it does hurt when shows are on only once a week and it hurts even more when it is Sunday mornings.



I agree to a point. When you start skipping on information to be entertaining than you have a problem. When you, like most pundits do, only give half a story to pull in viewers that want to listen because you are suiting their agenda than you have a problem. And that is part of my problem with pundits. They sell these half stories as the truth just to gain viewers that agree to their political lean.
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If they are skipping on facts then they are intellectually dishonest and unworthy of your time or attention from then on. That's what I meant, partly, by being responsible in commentary.

One thing I believe FOX offers far more of than they are credited for by their detractors is - yes I'll say it, balance. You will hear liberals on Fox. I'm not sure if I tuned in to MSNBC, I would hear many cons. Would I? (And no, I don't count Joe. Not anymore.)
 
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haymarket said:
You serve your corporate allies very well. They would be proud. Perhaps a basket of corporate goodies will be laid upon your doorstep as a demonstration of their appreciation. Or perhaps you will merely have to settle with the usual pat on the head and 'thats a good boy'.

Again, you sound more an more like one of those people who justify the silencing of their opponents by taking the most narrow view possible but when their own ox is gored its an entirely different thing.
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Do you intend at any point to man up for your own flawed logic? No? I didn't think so. Thanks for playing...
 
LuckyDan said:
One thing I believe FOX offers far more of than they are credited for by their detractors is - yes I'll say it, balance. You will hear liberals on Fox. I'm not sure if I tuned in to MSNBC, I would hear many cons. Would I? (And no, I don't count Joe. Not anymore.)
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I will agree with you that Fox has liberals, but I do not agree that it equals balance. The liberals that are on Fox are the Alan Colmes type. Weak and submissive, which makes the conservative hosts like Hannity look better and therefore have an air of authority in their show. And I will again agree with the fact that you probably won't see as many Republicans on MSNBC as liberals on Fox, but again I don't agree that it equals balance.
 
Whovian said:
Do you intend at any point to man up for your own flawed logic? No? I didn't think so. Thanks for playing...
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I love it when you take off the MEAN GIRL dress and put on the referee uniform as its good for a laugh. As I said before, this is a step taken... a step in the silencing of the left... a step in silencing the critics of corporatism ... a step in silencing those who want to silence all of us opposed to the right wing corporate agenda. You are free to view that step as you want to. If you want to play "box me in" you can get somebody else cause that is not my game ........... its yours.
 
haymarket said:
I love it when you take off the MEAN GIRL dress and put on the referee uniform as its good for a laugh. As I said before, this is a step taken... a step in the silencing of the left... a step in silencing the critics of corporatism ... a step in silencing those who want to silence all of us opposed to the right wing corporate agenda. You are free to view that step as you want to. If you want to play "box me in" you can get somebody else cause that is not my game ........... its yours.
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Again... has Olbermann lost some freedom to speak his mind as you implied earlier? No, he is still free to do so. He just won't be paid by MSNBC to do so... as much as that saddens you.
 
Whovian said:
Again... has Olbermann lost some freedom to speak his mind as you implied earlier? No, he is still free to do so. He just won't be paid by MSNBC to do so... as much as that saddens you.
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And you have the typical right wing view of what freedom is when you do not agree with its expression because it opposes your own partisanship and your own ideology. btw- you are wrong - KO is going to get paid to the tune of $15 million dollars by the network. That is the price they are paying for ignoring his contract which runs through 2011 and 2012.

They are NOT concerned with money. They are more concerned with silencing him to the millions who now hear him. Of course, now you will tell me that if KO just raises his voice on the corner and we all lean in the direction of NYCity that we can still listen to him and nobody has been silenced. And in your mind the cause of freedom has been served.
 
haymarket said:
And you have the typical right wing view of what freedom is when you do not agree with its expression because it opposes your own partisanship and your own ideology. btw- you are wrong - KO is going to get paid to the tune of $15 million dollars by the network. That is the price they are paying for ignoring his contract which runs through 2011 and 2012.

They are NOT concerned with money. They are more concerned with silencing him to the millions who now hear him. Of course, now you will tell me that if KO just raises his voice on the corner and we all lean in the direction of NYCity that we can still listen to him and nobody has been silenced. And in your mind the cause of freedom has been served.
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So, MSNBC is part of the vast, right-wing conspiracy to silence liberals? You're really losing it here...lol.

He can express his opinions all he wants. MSNBC will simply no longer pay him to do so. That they will pay out his contract doesn't change that fact.
 
Whovian said:
So, MSNBC is part of the vast, right-wing conspiracy to silence liberals? You're really losing it here...lol.

He can express his opinions all he wants. MSNBC will simply no longer pay him to do so. That they will pay out his contract doesn't change that fact.
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The funny thing is that haymarket doesn't understand that he is basically defending Glenn Beck :lol:
 
Whovian said:
So, MSNBC is part of the vast, right-wing conspiracy to silence liberals? You're really losing it here...lol.

He can express his opinions all he wants. MSNBC will simply no longer pay him to do so. That they will pay out his contract doesn't change that fact.
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So you think there is no relationship between Comcast taking over NBC and firing KO at the same time?
 
Your Star said:
The funny thing is that haymarket doesn't understand that he is basically defending Glenn Beck :lol:
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I always support the right of Glen Beck to be on the air. I have repeatedly said that I would put Beck on many more hours each day and run repeats of his show and urge ALL American to watch every day. Same thing with Limbaugh and Hannity and O'Rielly. I would like to take the four of them and put them on for two hours each day and then run two loops of that cycle all day.
 
haymarket said:
I always support the right of Glen Beck to be on the air. I have repeatedly said that I would put Beck on many more hours each day and run repeats of his show and urge ALL American to watch every day.
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So if he was fired you would think his first amendment rights were violated?
 
haymarket said:
So you think there is no relationship between Comcast taking over NBC and firing KO at the same time?
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Ok... so it's not that his rights have been stripped... now we're switching tacs to 'the new owners fired him'. got it.

from one of your favorite sources Hay...

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/coincidence-keith-olbermann-departs-msnbc-on-the-day-comcast-takes-over/
And while thus far there is no specific evidence that Comcast had a direct hand in this development there no almost no question that Comcast provided some sort of support to NBC to end Olbermann’s contract,
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Hay's next frantic directional change will be?????
 
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haymarket said:
I always support the right of Glen Beck to be on the air. I have repeatedly said that I would put Beck on many more hours each day and run repeats of his show and urge ALL American to watch every day. Same thing with Limbaugh and Hannity and O'Rielly. I would like to take the four of them and put them on for two hours each day and then run two loops of that cycle all day.
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You do know that Rush doesn't even have a TV show, don't you?
 
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