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    Re: Keith Olbermann announces tonight's Countdown as his last show!

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    You can suspect anything you like. Probelm is, since the merger has not completed, Comcast has not legal right or ability to have the liberal ball licker KO fired, promoted, or anything in between. Comcast has already said publicly they had nothign to do with it.
    Of course they have said that. So what? For you that is enough? I have no doubt that Comcast has made their feelings about KO known to NBC for months now while the merger was awaiting approval and details finalized. I suspect that these talks between KO and the network were as a direct result of BOTH PARTIES realizing that a very big change was coming as soon as Comcast officially took over. I have no doubt that both NBC knew what was in store for KO and I also have no doubt that KO knew what was in store for himself. And all was because of the impending takeover by Comcast - a far more conservative company with owners with strong ties to the Republican Party. So both parties sat down over the past weeks or months trying to do something about it before Comcast officially had their name etched on the windows.

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    So you're saying Olbermann is a pussy who would sit by and let this happen in order to get paid a few extra million?
    You have such a way with over the top hyperbole. I am saying that I suspect KO could see the writing on the wall with the changes coming in the Comcast takeover, NBC saw the writing on the wall with the changes coming in the Comcast takeover, and talks were initiated so that this entire matter was resolved by the time Comcast took over. Comcast did not want the publicity that would come with an outright firing of KO once they had taken over. I am sure that they were afraid of a boycott or other things such as charges of muzzling progressive pundits. I have no doubt that Comcast may indeed have made this entire scenario a behind the scenes proviso that they insisted be done before their takeover. So this was done now to mitigate such fallout.

    Consider that KO will be paid the balance of $15 million dollars due to him for the two years remaining on his contract. He loses nothing in money. MSNBC loses their number one draw on the nighttime five day a week block. MSNBC loses their only star who generates a million viewers. They clearly lose while KO clearly has won.

    Comcast, with their denials and refusals to be part of this, can go in with what they claim are clean hands and KO is out of their hair. And it only cost them $15 mil over two years. A small price to pay for getting rid of the most aggressive progressive on the airwaves who is a constant pain in the ass to their Republican Party friends. It also eliminates the one figure who would most likely take to the airwaves and make a very public mess of any later Comcast effort to turn the station more to the center or right.
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    Re: Keith Olbermann announces tonight's Countdown as his last show!

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You have such a way with over the top hyperbole. I am saying that I suspect KO could see the writing on the wall with the changes coming in the Comcast takeover, NBC saw the writing on the wall with the changes coming in the Comcast takeover, and talks were initiated so that this entire matter was resolved by the time Comcast took over. Comcast did not want the publicity that would come with an outright firing of KO once they had taken over. I am sure that they were afraid of a boycott or other things such as charges of muzzling progressive pundits. I have no doubt that Comcast may indeed have made this entire scenario a behind the scenes proviso that they insisted be done before their takeover. So this was done now to mitigate such fallout.

    Consider that KO will be paid the balance of $15 million dollars due to him for the two years remaining on his contract. He loses nothing in money. MSNBC loses their number one draw on the nighttime five day a week block. MSNBC loses their only star who generates a million viewers. They clearly lose while KO clearly has won.

    Comcast, with their denials and refusals to be part of this, can go in with what they claim are clean hands and KO is out of their hair. And it only cost them $15 mil over two years. A small price to pay for getting rid of the most aggressive progressive on the airwaves who is a constant pain in the ass to their Republican Party friends. It also eliminates the one figure who would most likely take to the airwaves and make a very public mess of any later Comcast effort to turn the station more to the center or right.
    And rather than speak out about this unconscionable silencing of the left's most powerful voice, Olbermann is shutting up and taking it from behind for filthy lucre.
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    Re: Keith Olbermann announces tonight's Countdown as his last show!

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    And rather than speak out about this unconscionable silencing of the left's most powerful voice, Olbermann is shutting up and taking it from behind for filthy lucre.
    Apparently, not speaking about the terms of the termination was a condition imposed on both sides by mutual agreement. That does not mean he cannot speak up in other venues or formats about other things. You do have a flair for over the top hyperbole designed to deflect from the true picture. Money due to KO under a legal contract willingly agreed to by both sides is "filthy lucre" in your parlance. Interesting. Do you consider your agreed upon wages as "filthy lucre" also?
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    Re: Keith Olbermann announces tonight's Countdown as his last show!

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    Comcast, with their denials and refusals to be part of this, can go in with what they claim are clean hands and KO is out of their hair. And it only cost them $15 mil over two years. A small price to pay for getting rid of the most aggressive progressive on the airwaves who is a constant pain in the ass to their Republican Party friends. It also eliminates the one figure who would most likely take to the airwaves and make a very public mess of any later Comcast effort to turn the station more to the center or right.
    Why cost them $15 mil just to please the Right. I thought the money was with pleasing the Left.
    Now they will go to the right just like Obama. This is not going to work with the left because that's not what they want to hear, the Left needs some kind of support. What happened to loyalty????

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    Re: Keith Olbermann announces tonight's Countdown as his last show!

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Apparently, not speaking about the terms of the termination was a condition imposed on both sides by mutual agreement. That does not mean he cannot speak up in other venues or formats about other things. You do have a flair for over the top hyperbole designed to deflect from the true picture. Money due to KO under a legal contract willingly agreed to by both sides is "filthy lucre" in your parlance. Interesting. Do you consider your agreed upon wages as "filthy lucre" also?
    I know this is difficult to understand, so I'll spell it out for you.

    When two parties decide that a contractual relationship is not working, they can enter into a new agreement that provides for an end to the first one. In so doing, neither party is entitled to anything beyond what they can negotiate. In exchange for his willingness to not speak about the circumstances of his break with MSNBC, Olbermann received compensation beyond what he would have received had he retained the right to speak about the break. If Olbermann actually thought that his break was influenced by a right-wing plot to silence him, then he sold his ability to speak out about it (and his integrity) for that additional incremental compensation.
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    Re: Keith Olbermann announces tonight's Countdown as his last show!

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I know this is difficult to understand, so I'll spell it out for you.

    When two parties decide that a contractual relationship is not working, they can enter into a new agreement that provides for an end to the first one. In so doing, neither party is entitled to anything beyond what they can negotiate. In exchange for his willingness to not speak about the circumstances of his break with MSNBC, Olbermann received compensation beyond what he would have received had he retained the right to speak about the break. If Olbermann actually thought that his break was influenced by a right-wing plot to silence him, then he sold his ability to speak out about it (and his integrity) for that additional incremental compensation.
    Let me spell it out for you since you have trouble comprehending what happened here. (see NYC - don't you appreciate it when somebody adopts a smartass posture and treats you like an imbecile simply because you see it differently than they do?)KO was due $15 million dollars over the next two years from NBC. In return, he did his TV show. They wanted him to STOP doing his TV show and he agreed to do so as long as they upheld their end of the bargain.

    The rest of your opinion ... is .. well .. its just your opinion shaped by your own ideology which is intended to attempt to smear KO because you do not like his politics.

    Or were you an attorney on the other side with NBC and you have some inside information that nobody else has on this?
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    Re: Keith Olbermann announces tonight's Countdown as his last show!

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Let me spell it out for you since you have trouble comprehending what happened here. (see NYC - don't you appreciate it when somebody adopts a smartass posture and treats you like an imbecile simply because you see it differently than they do?)
    It was apparently warranted.

    KO was due $15 million dollars over the next two years from NBC. In return, he did his TV show. They wanted him to STOP doing his TV show and he agreed to do so as long as they upheld their end of the bargain.

    The rest of your opinion ... is .. well .. its just your opinion shaped by your own ideology which is intended to attempt to smear KO because you do not like his politics.

    Or were you an attorney on the other side with NBC and you have some inside information that nobody else has on this?
    No, I'm capable of understanding basic logic and reason. I also don't deny things that are plain on their face, as you make a habit of doing.

    As part of their agreement to separate, Olbermann agreed to a gag order. In order to induce him to agree to a gag order, NBC had to offer him something (additional money). Whatever that thing was (additional money), he took it.
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    Re: Keith Olbermann announces tonight's Countdown as his last show!

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    In order to induce him to agree to a gag order, NBC had to offer him something (additional money). Whatever that thing was (additional money), he took it.
    Could you cite the source of this additional payment please. Every report I have seen makes no mention of it at all.
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    Re: Keith Olbermann announces tonight's Countdown as his last show!

    Did Comcast force Olbermann out? Of course Jon Friedman's Media Web - MarketWatch

    Jon Friedman's MARKET WATCH column sums it up very clearly and succintly

    By Jon Friedman, MarketWatch
    NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — Did Comcast, which is acquiring NBC Universal from General Electric, force MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann out?

    Of course it did. See full story on Olbermann’s departure from MSNBC.

    It can’t be a coincidence that the bomb was dropped as soon as Comcast’s (CMCSA 23.53, +0.27, +1.16%) takeover of the GE (GE 19.74, +1.31, +7.11%) unit was set in stone.
    And for those who may take umbrage, the rest of the article is pretty much ANTI KO with a lot of harsh things to say about him. But at least Friedman has the integrity to admit the obvious.
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    Re: Keith Olbermann announces tonight's Countdown as his last show!

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Did Comcast force Olbermann out? Of course Jon Friedman's Media Web - MarketWatch

    Jon Friedman's MARKET WATCH column sums it up very clearly and succintly



    And for those who may take umbrage, the rest of the article is pretty much ANTI KO with a lot of harsh things to say about him. But at least Friedman has the integrity to admit the obvious.
    So... your 'proof' is a Commentary piece in Market Watch saying "Of course it did."?

    Really? You're gonna go with that?

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