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    Re: GOP Lawmakers Unveil $2.5 Trillion Spending Cuts Package

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Actually so did republicans. Or did we forget about Bush and the prescription (unfunded) bill? The republicans in this case get credit for at least making an attempt, but it's still not the right time to cut spending(when unemployment under 6 %, then it's time to do this), and it's still just cutting programs based on what they do not like, instead of making the broad, across the board cuts(including defense) that is needed.

    By this logic the fact that there is job creation, but slower than needed to keep up with new workers means unemployment rates are dropping. if there are fewer jobs, then there are fewer jobs.
    Did you miss the affects of the Bush Prescription Drug program the last year that Bush was in office? Do results matter in your world?

    Medicare drug plan spending drops $6B in 2008 - USATODAY.com

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    Re: GOP Lawmakers Unveil $2.5 Trillion Spending Cuts Package

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    Did you miss the affects of the Bush Prescription Drug program the last year that Bush was in office? Do results matter in your world?

    Medicare drug plan spending drops $6B in 2008 - USATODAY.com

    What does that have to do with it being unfunded?

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    Re: GOP Lawmakers Unveil $2.5 Trillion Spending Cuts Package

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    What does that have to do with it being unfunded?
    It has everything to do with costs coming down vs. projections as it is doing what Bush said it would do. The budget is there and the actual spending costs were below budget. Actual spending vs. budget? How is that underfunded? Looks like savings to me.

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    Re: GOP Lawmakers Unveil $2.5 Trillion Spending Cuts Package

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    It has everything to do with costs coming down vs. projections as it is doing what Bush said it would do. The budget is there and the actual spending costs were below budget. Actual spending vs. budget? How is that underfunded? Looks like savings to me.
    Okay but what does that have to do with it being unfunded?


    BTW your article noted the cost is going to rise because of baby boomers.

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    Re: GOP Lawmakers Unveil $2.5 Trillion Spending Cuts Package

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Okay but what does that have to do with it being unfunded?


    BTW your article noted the cost is going to rise because of baby boomers.
    The point is we have a budget and the actual spending comes in under budget that is a spending cut and savings. Has nothing to do with underfunding. Looks to me like it is working.

    There you go again, projections that may or may not come true. Human behavior is ignored in those projections. A 6 billion dollar savings in 2008 tells me that market based programs work. Do you understand incentive?

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    Re: GOP Lawmakers Unveil $2.5 Trillion Spending Cuts Package

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The point is we have a budget and the actual spending comes in under budget that is a spending cut and savings. Has nothing to do with underfunding. Looks to me like it is working.

    There you go again, projections that may or may not come true. Human behavior is ignored in those projections. A 6 billion dollar savings in 2008 tells me that market based programs work. Do you understand incentive?

    Go back and re read what I was asking about.

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    Re: GOP Lawmakers Unveil $2.5 Trillion Spending Cuts Package

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Go back and re read what I was asking about.
    I prefer actual results to projections and the point Redress claims is that the Prescription Drug program was unfunded and as I showed the actual results show a reduction in costs.

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    Re: GOP Lawmakers Unveil $2.5 Trillion Spending Cuts Package

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Why am I not surprised? During elections all I kept hearing from people is that we needed the government to cut spending. "Cut this! Cut that! This needs to be done! We're overspending, STOP!" etc etc ad nauseum etc.

    Now spending cuts are going to be done (hopefully) and what happens? People bitch and complain about the spending cut.

    $2.5 trillion dollar cut? By God DO IT! Could more things be cut? Sure!

    Also if people seriously expected the government to cut spending then they would have to be stupid as all get out to think that peoples jobs wouldn't be on the line. I would dare anyone to name one thing that can be cut that wouldn't affect someones job somewhere along the lines.
    What gets me is those saying things like, but what about medicare and social security? They don't mention cuts there. It's like they were hoping there would have to be cuts made there for political reasons. I mean they have been yelling forever that the (R) were going to harm old people and their SS checks.
    I think the lists of cuts they are proposing are good. From the way I see it, it looks a lot less damaging to the average American than I could have hoped for. It's about time. We've been tightening our belts for a long time. It's time someone else did.
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    Re: GOP Lawmakers Unveil $2.5 Trillion Spending Cuts Package

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    What gets me is those saying things like, but what about medicare and social security? They don't mention cuts there. It's like they were hoping there would have to be cuts made there for political reasons. I mean they have been yelling forever that the (R) were going to harm old people and their SS checks.
    Interesting how when the Dems were in charge, it was all 'The GOP hates old people and want them to die... the GOP will take away your Medicare and SS'.

    Now that the Dems no longer have the leadership role they did, it's all 'what about cuts to Medicare and SS!'


    ****ing hypocrites.

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    Re: GOP Lawmakers Unveil $2.5 Trillion Spending Cuts Package

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Interesting how when the Dems were in charge, it was all 'The GOP hates old people and want them to die... the GOP will take away your Medicare and SS'.

    Now that the Dems no longer have the leadership role they did, it's all 'what about cuts to Medicare and SS!'


    ****ing hypocrites.
    Did you see the Houston "embarrassment" Sheila Jackson Lee on the floor of the House claiming that repeal of the healthcare bill will result in people dying? The bill hasn't even gone into effect yet but people are going to die if it is repeales? Aren't people dying now? She is a joke throughout the city here and showed it to the country yesterday.

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