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    Re: GOP Lawmakers Unveil $2.5 Trillion Spending Cuts Package

    Where is the outrage over all the money that is being wasted in the development of the new F-22 raptor that looks like it is going to be scrapped and has cost tax payers billions with likely nothing to show?

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    Re: GOP Lawmakers Unveil $2.5 Trillion Spending Cuts Package

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    If a place has 50 employees, and decides to let attrition reduce manning to 25 employees, 25 jobs have been lost in the economy.
    So... no company, ever, anywhere, should let a single job end... ever?

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    Re: GOP Lawmakers Unveil $2.5 Trillion Spending Cuts Package

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    A lot of those are making me wince, but I can see the necessity of cutting most of them as part of plan to impose fiscal responsibility. But in order for this to be really effective, we need to cut into at least as many Republican-sponsored subsidies, and ideally have some tax increases.
    are you implying that every one of those was a Democrat-sponsored program? Do you have a link showing this?

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    Re: GOP Lawmakers Unveil $2.5 Trillion Spending Cuts Package

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    A lot of those are making me wince, but I can see the necessity of cutting most of them as part of plan to impose fiscal responsibility. But in order for this to be really effective, we need to cut into at least as many Republican-sponsored subsidies, and ideally have some tax increases.
    I disagree with ANY tax increases.
    However, that is a very long list of spending cuts. Are you saying that most are (D) sponsored subsidies? I don't know, just asking. If so, than I agree with you on that.
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    Re: GOP Lawmakers Unveil $2.5 Trillion Spending Cuts Package

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    I'm all for shrinking wasteful Gov. But just eliminating jobs for the sake of looking good...
    is not even remotely what that list says. Of course, your partisan hackery would prevent something that obvious from registering in your brain.

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    Re: GOP Lawmakers Unveil $2.5 Trillion Spending Cuts Package

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    I disagree with ANY tax increases.
    However, that is a very long list of spending cuts. Are you saying that most are (D) sponsored subsidies? I don't know, just asking. If so, than I agree with you on that.
    Low taxes for corporations have little utility right now, as due to the recession corporations have made so many reductions to their work forces that they won't be able to function if further cuts are made; the one point they won't compromise on is that they won't cut pay for executives. Since everything else is being sacrificed, I don't see a point in sparing the salaries of the people whose mismanagement culminated in the recession.

    As for your other question, as an example, organic food has been on the march for the last couple years, leading to the establishment of health food sections in supermarkets even in isolated areas; that's because recent discoveries have drawn connections between the additives in most foods and prevalent health problems. The corporations founded on providing our chemical-laced diet are starting to feel the hurt, and they have more affinity with Republicans than with Democrats, so the directive to come down on organic food is probably at the behest of their lobbyists.

    Truth be told, I'm not against reducing subsidies for organic food as long as subsidies are cut/taxes raised for competing industries. Prices at the supermarket will go up, unfortunately, but Americans still throw away vast portions of food, so I can only be so against it.
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    Re: GOP Lawmakers Unveil $2.5 Trillion Spending Cuts Package

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    returning $45 billion in unspent "stimulus" money in and of itself is a good thing.
    Bogus savings underlie these proposals.

    Excerpted from “House GOP group proposes deep spending cuts over next decade” By Lori Montgomery, Washington Post Staff Writer, The Washington Post, Thursday, January 20, 2011; 10:25 PM, with my emphasis
    According to Democratic estimates, cuts of that magnitude - if applied across the board - would require the Justice Department to fire 4,000 FBI agents and 1,500 agents at the Drug Enforcement Administration. The federal prison system would have to fire 5,700 correctional officers, the Agriculture Department would have to cut about 3,000 food safety inspectors, and the Head Start early-childhood education program would be forced to cut about 389,000 children from its rolls.

    The study committee's proposal focuses instead on more palatable cuts, such as a plan to rescind unspent money from the 2009 economic stimulus package. The group estimates that would save $45 billion, though other congressional estimates put the figure as low as $3 billion.
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    Re: GOP Lawmakers Unveil $2.5 Trillion Spending Cuts Package

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    I'm all for shrinking wasteful Gov. But just eliminating jobs for the sake of looking good...
    Why are the jobs being eliminated?
    To make the (R) look good? That doesn't make a lick of sense. That would make them look bad. There must be another reason for it.
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    Re: GOP Lawmakers Unveil $2.5 Trillion Spending Cuts Package

    Well I hope they do cut most of those programs listed. Heck the Davis - Bacon Act doesnt even have bacon in it! But most of ALL..... they need to cut all of their pensions!!!! And they should pay for their own health care! Thats IF they want to do the right thing.
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    Re: GOP Lawmakers Unveil $2.5 Trillion Spending Cuts Package

    Why am I not surprised? During elections all I kept hearing from people is that we needed the government to cut spending. "Cut this! Cut that! This needs to be done! We're overspending, STOP!" etc etc ad nauseum etc.

    Now spending cuts are going to be done (hopefully) and what happens? People bitch and complain about the spending cut.

    $2.5 trillion dollar cut? By God DO IT! Could more things be cut? Sure!

    Also if people seriously expected the government to cut spending then they would have to be stupid as all get out to think that peoples jobs wouldn't be on the line. I would dare anyone to name one thing that can be cut that wouldn't affect someones job somewhere along the lines.
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