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    Re: Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    He has not failed to keep the promise. That is pure birther type spin.

    so your arguement is that since he gave no deadline, as long as he delivers sometime before his death he has kept his promise?

    pathetic, really. I expect better of you
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    Re: Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I get your point - you need the actual legal documentation to validate your claim, but two can play that game.

    How about using a marriage announcement as proof of your marriage? Moreover, try getting a divorce using it and not show a marriage license or having such on file at your local county clerk's office.

    What about using a death announcement as proof to claim death benefits for a surviving family member?

    Neither work very well do they? But, thanks for playing.
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What point are you trying to make?
    Just to show how ridiculous your attempt at discrediting public announcements really is. There's a reason birth, death and marriage announces are put in local newspapers - to inform the public of the event. While just about anyone can submit such information to local media outlets, what people (in this case, birthers, truthers or conspiracy theorists) don't stop to consider is the legal ramifications making a false statement would bring. In short, if the birth, marriage or death of an individual cannot be verified by local records agencies, i.e., city/county clerk's office, public health department, etc., then somebody's got some 'plainin' to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by keymanjim View Post
    A birth announcement is not a legal document and the COLB (which the state of Hawaii has never confirmed that it came from them) could be based on a 338-17.8 birth certificate issued to children born outside of the state.
    The current Governor went looking for the real birth certificate and came up empty handed. What does that tell you?
    First off, if Pres. Obama was born outside the U.S., his COLB would indicate such per Hawaiian law.

    Second, what Gov. Abercrombie said was his investigation discovered a notation of Pres. Obama's birth in the record archieves. His predecessor, former Gov. Linda Lingle, states she placed Obama's birth certificate under seal and it was not to be released (to the press). It does make me wonder why Ambercrombie as Hawaii's new governor won't simply unseal the records. However, he could simply be looking for more concrete evidence that support the President's birth.

    I know...far fetched. But considering that Hawaii no longer uses the long-form birth certificate, has stated repeatedly that birth records since 1961 have been placed in electronic form, and that everyone born in Hawaii now receives a COLB, it does make sense that Abercrombie would look for other supporting evidence besides a birth announcement, or the COLB sealed or otherwise.

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    Re: Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate

    Aren't there at least hospital records from the day he was born?
    I don't keep up with all this birther stuff, so don't know if it's been asked before.
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    Re: Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Aren't there at least hospital records from the day he was born?
    I don't keep up with all this birther stuff, so don't know if it's been asked before.
    As understand it, all long-form birth certificates and hospital birth records were transferred into electronic record form. I would assume the old hard copy records were destroyed after reprint in their new legal format under the law. You'd probably have to inquire to the Hawaii Dept. of Public Health to find out.

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    Re: Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    As understand it, all long-form birth certificates and hospital birth records were transferred into electronic record form. I would assume the old hard copy records were destroyed after reprint in their new legal format under the law. You'd probably have to inquire to the Hawaii Dept. of Public Health to find out.
    So, then what were the 'original vital records on file' that the director of the DOH used to confirm that obama was born there? And, since she consulted the AG's office before she made the statement, why hasn't those document been made public under Hawaii statute 28-3?

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    Re: Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    why is this such an issue? why not just shut everyone up and show the damn thing? I have my original birth cert in a safe deposit box along with marriage certs, dd214s, birth certs for all my kids, etc and if asked I could produce the original or a certified copy within hours.
    That would make to damn much sense. Or, Obama doesn't have an actual brith certificate.

    Purdy much the only two choices in this matter.
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    Re: Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    The article makes the claim yet actually fails to back it up - he said nothing of the sort.
    What exactly didn't he say?
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    Re: Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Here:

    It actually exists in the archives

    Now, which part of that is hard to understand? Not getting something done that will take some unkown amount of time done on a random specific date is in no way an indicator of any type of failure, nor is it in this case any kind of vindication of idiot birthers.
    Ok...Abercrombie oughta be producing it very soon. Yes?

    BTW, who has to go to the state archives to find their BC?
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    Re: Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Did he mention a deadline? If not, or if he did and we have not reached it, this whole thing is especially retarded.
    Well, you got one part right.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Birthers never go away. But without them, who would we make fun of?

    Jet, start another pot will ya?
    You, you're made fun of all the time.
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