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    Re: Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    It's Abercombie trying to make a name for himself by taking up the mantle of defending Obama and personally, taking on the "birthers". Otherwise, whatever the birthers issues were... they were waning. Regarding the birthers and "what is it", it's partisanship - same we saw with McCain and the challenges to his right to run for President.
    But, McCain is white. That's different.
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    Re: Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Thank you for confirming what I said, earlier. 'preciate'cha!
    you're thanking me for confirming that you still couldn't answer the question of "what is it", that i have asked you numerous times?

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    Re: Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    you're thanking me for confirming that you still couldn't answer the question of "what is it", that i have asked you numerous times?

    you're welcome.
    You asking the question confirms what I've been saying. Especially, since you haven't figured out that this thread isn't even about Obama.
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    Re: Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate

    According to the ABCNews article (also see linked article in ludahai's post #118), the Hawaii State Attorney General, David Louie...

    ... told the governor (Ambercrombie) that privacy laws bar him from disclosing an individual's birth documentation without the person's consent. There is nothing more that Gov. Abercrombie can do within the law to produce a document.
    For those interested, information covering Hawaii state law concerning distribution and access to vital records, as well as the content of index record pertaining to Pres. Obama's birth, can be found here.

    So, I guess in a way the birthers/truther/pundits are back to square one. But the good news here is it's one more piece of evidence that supports Pres. Obama's U.S. NBC citizen.

    1. Two birth announcements in local paper.

    2. Certificate of Live Birth (w/o "explanatory clauses", i.e., delayed birth, out of state birth, orphan, etc.)

    3. Index data listing his birth in Hawaii state public health vital records log.

    I really don't know how much more proof anyone needs. I mean, if his name wasn't listed in the archieves per the index data, that would be one thing. But it's there. I say stop the madness already.

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    Re: Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    According to the ABCNews article (also see linked article in ludahai's post #118), the Hawaii State Attorney General, David Louie...

    ... told the governor (Ambercrombie) that privacy laws bar him from disclosing an individual's birth documentation without the person's consent. There is nothing more that Gov. Abercrombie can do within the law to produce a document.

    For those interested, information covering Hawaii state law concerning distribution and access to vital records, as well as the content of index record pertaining to Pres. Obama's birth, can be found here.

    So, I guess in a way the birthers/truther/pundits are back to square one. But the good news here is it's one more piece of evidence that supports Pres. Obama's U.S. NBC citizen.

    1. Two birth announcements in local paper.

    2. Certificate of Live Birth (w/o "explanatory clauses", i.e., delayed birth, out of state birth, orphan, etc.)

    3. Index data listing his birth in Hawaii state public health vital records log.

    I really don't know how much more proof anyone needs. I mean, if his name wasn't listed in the archieves per the index data, that would be one thing. But it's there. I say stop the madness already.
    No one gives a **** about Obama's citizenship. So, stop preaching to the choir.

    But, Abercrombie's stupidity still remains intact.
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    Re: Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate

    Then why did you start this thread?

    Among your first couple of posts...

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, do you have a source that proves Abercrombie did locate Obama's BC? Would love to see it...thaaaaaaaaaaaaanks!
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Abercrombie set out to find Obama's long form, because he knows that the BC that has been presented doesn't really prove anything; he can't find it and there's nothing to discuss?

    I think you're all just worried, is all.

    I don't care where Obama was born. I'm only pointing out Abercrombie's stupidity and how this little venture is going to give credibility to the birfers.
    I mean, is the issue Amberbrombie's foolhearty and frutile search or is it that in your opinion his search really didn't turn up anything new?
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    Re: Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Then why did you start this thread?

    Among your first couple of posts...





    I mean, is the issue Amberbrombie's foolhearty and frutile search or is it that in your opinion his search really didn't turn up anything new?
    First, is Abercrombies stupid ass idea to put to bed, the idea that Obama isn't a natural born citizen.

    Second, is Abercrombie's embarressing failure, to put to bed, the idea that Obama isn't a natural born citizen.

    Third--and most hillarious--the birfer movement was quietly going away, before Abercrombie injected new life into it.

    Unintended conciquences are the scurge of Liberalism's ass. I guess that know-it-all, smarter-than-the-swinish-masses superiority complex isn't all it's cracked up to be.
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    Re: Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    According to the ABCNews article (also see linked article in ludahai's post #118), the Hawaii State Attorney General, David Louie...



    For those interested, information covering Hawaii state law concerning distribution and access to vital records, as well as the content of index record pertaining to Pres. Obama's birth, can be found here.

    So, I guess in a way the birthers/truther/pundits are back to square one. But the good news here is it's one more piece of evidence that supports Pres. Obama's U.S. NBC citizen.

    1. Two birth announcements in local paper.

    2. Certificate of Live Birth (w/o "explanatory clauses", i.e., delayed birth, out of state birth, orphan, etc.)

    3. Index data listing his birth in Hawaii state public health vital records log.

    I really don't know how much more proof anyone needs. I mean, if his name wasn't listed in the archieves per the index data, that would be one thing. But it's there. I say stop the madness already.
    1. Birth announcements are not legal documents and can be placed in the newspapers by anyone. Even a grandfather who want a son so bad that he gave his daughter a boy's name.

    2. The state of Hawaii has refused to confirm that the COLB that obama has presented cam from them.

    3. The index data confirms that the state has a file on obama, but does not confirm that he was born there. They would still have a file on him if he was issued a 338-17.8 birth certificate.

    4. At any one time, depending on who you ask, he was born at two different hospitals. Though, neither have a record of his birth.

    5. His paternal grandmother said that she was present when he was born in her country.

    6. His own wife of 17 years has called Kenya barack's "home country".

    7. No one spends $1,300,000 in legal fees to hide something as innocuous as a birth certificate unless it's release would be disastrous.

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    Re: Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Are you claiming Chris Matthews works from WND? Even he has been asking... WHY?

    Why not "plug the damn hole"?
    It's been a month since the Governor of HI has stated he would prove Obama was born in the US... where the hell is the proof? See CNN clip.

    As for the governor's claims, memory studies reveal people piece together false histories. The deterioration of memory is pretty quick, and replacing memory with events that did not happen is not uncommon in the least... and this is a near half-century old bit of memory.

    Just produce the damn certificate and get it over with. This should have been done when he announced, and every future candidate should have to produce his birth certificate. It's not some trivial exercise, it is part of the rules of the game when seeking the most powerful office in the world.


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    Re: Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate

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    Zimmer.... You continued to make conservatives look bad. Now read and shut yur pie-hole! snopes.com: Barack Obama Birth Certificate
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