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    Re: EPA shuts down one of the largest Coal Mines in U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    The only reason it won't go back into production if it isn't profitable.
    If the moratorium prevents another disaster then it did it's job. There were 2 deepwater permits issued since it expired. How many deepwater permits would have been issued without the moratorium?
    5-6 a month; for both deep water and shallow water drilling. To date, there have only been two
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    Re: EPA shuts down one of the largest Coal Mines in U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Hundreds of oil wells and a handful of oil spills over many years does not make it a national disaster.
    The BP oil spill wasn't a disaster? Then why were you all crying that the federal government wasn't doing enough to stop the leak or clean up the mess.

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    Re: EPA shuts down one of the largest Coal Mines in U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    5-6 a month; for both deep water and shallow water drilling. To date, there have only been two
    Good.
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    Re: EPA shuts down one of the largest Coal Mines in U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    5-6 a month; for both deep water and shallow water drilling. To date, there have only been two
    This week’s announcement that 13 oil companies can resume activity in the Gulf of Mexico provided some hope the Obama administration might finally begin to approve drilling new permits. It couldn’t come soon enough.

    Since the administration’s drilling moratorium was lifted in October, deep-water permit issuance is down 88 percent with only two new permits in that time. It’s only slightly better for shallow-water permits, which weren’t subjected to the moratorium, but are still down 11 percent.
    Do you really want everything business as usual after the BP spill?

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    Re: EPA shuts down one of the largest Coal Mines in U.S.

    The BP spill proved that deepwater drilling is not safe.

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    Re: EPA shuts down one of the largest Coal Mines in U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    The BP spill proved that deepwater drilling is not safe.
    That is why regulations are in place - they are enacted BECAUSE of problems and their purpose is to PREVENT future problems. When regulations are ignored and people stop taking their jobs and the issues seriously THEN things go to ****.

    What the investigation into the matter found is that no one was making any effort *what so effort* to prevent and avoid problems. Documents were faked. Individuals did their own audits and reviews of their own work and the people who *were* suppose to do them just went with whatever was written.

    The BP oil spill rooted out the horrible inefficiency and 'WE don't give a ****' attitude from most parts of the oil industry.
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    Re: EPA shuts down one of the largest Coal Mines in U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    That is why regulations are in place - they are enacted BECAUSE of problems and their purpose is to PREVENT future problems. When regulations are ignored and people stop taking their jobs and the issues seriously THEN things go to ****.

    What the investigation into the matter found is that no one was making any effort *what so effort* to prevent and avoid problems. Documents were faked. Individuals did their own audits and reviews of their own work and the people who *were* suppose to do them just went with whatever was written.

    The BP oil spill rooted out the horrible inefficiency and 'WE don't give a ****' attitude from most parts of the oil industry.
    And some people believe drilling should have continued as if nothing had happened.

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    Re: EPA shuts down one of the largest Coal Mines in U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    And some people believe drilling should have continued as if nothing had happened.
    Well that's not the case for this particular issue, here.

    If the government had properly done it's job with the oil industry all this time many disasters would have been prevented, avoided, or the impact reduced.
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    Re: EPA shuts down one of the largest Coal Mines in U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    It was a great idea when the republicans came out with it. Now that democrats finally agree, it becomes a bad idea.
    In case you hadn't noticed the election in 2010 was not a pep rally for Republicans. They made lots of mistakes and had wrong headed ideas in the past. It's a new day. Let's wait and see what they do now. So far they seem to be keeping their promises and are listening to the people.
    I don't care if they used to be for cap and trade. I care that they better be absolutely against it now.
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    Re: EPA shuts down one of the largest Coal Mines in U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean_H View Post
    Not related to this, you're just trying to use any opportunity to bash Pelosi. There are plenty of threads about that exact thing.
    Jobs lost, unemployment checks, Nancy Pelosi comments about the benefits of unemployment. Seems related to me.
    You can still point me to the plenty of threads my comments would better fit though.
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