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Thread: EPA shuts down one of the largest Coal Mines in U.S.

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    Re: EPA shuts down one of the largest Coal Mines in U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    What are you talking about? This is good news for the economy and job creation. All they have to do is get the unemployment checks out quickly.

    RealClearPolitics - Video - Pelosi: Unemployment Checks Serve As "Job Creator"
    Not related to this, you're just trying to use any opportunity to bash Pelosi. There are plenty of threads about that exact thing.
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    Re: EPA shuts down one of the largest Coal Mines in U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    Eventually there will be no choice.
    Au contraire. You need our cooperation in order to get the direct subsidies and tax credits required to make renewables and alternatives commercially viable.

    We have no incentive to cooperate with you. What do you have to offer us which would induce our cooperation?

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    Re: EPA shuts down one of the largest Coal Mines in U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    He openly claimed coal was in his crosshairs, and that he would bankrupt them.
    Only if they can't meet enviromental requirements, how do you feel about nuclear power? It's more effecient and has a lot less trouble meeting standards
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    Re: EPA shuts down one of the largest Coal Mines in U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Au contraire. You need our cooperation in order to get the direct subsidies and tax credits required to make renewables and alternatives commercially viable.
    There's no need for cooperation when the non-renewables run out. I think that's the point he was making.
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    Re: EPA shuts down one of the largest Coal Mines in U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Au contraire. You need our cooperation in order to get the direct subsidies and tax credits required to make renewables and alternatives commercially viable.

    We have no incentive to cooperate with you. What do you have to offer us which would induce our cooperation?

    Fine let the Chinese do it.

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    Re: EPA shuts down one of the largest Coal Mines in U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Or was it a bone head move by Arch Coal?

    Permanent and temporary stream burial could have been cut from 8.3 miles to about 3.4 miles under one alternative mining plan developed for EPA by engineer John Morgan of the Lexington, Ky.-based firm Morgan Worldwide.

    The alternative mining plan would have raised production costs for Arch subsidiary Mingo Logan Coal Co. by 55 cents per ton, about 1 percent of the expected per-ton sales price, according to the report obtained under the federal Freedom of Information Act.

    Spruce Mine could have reduced impacts, report says* - News - The Charleston Gazette - West Virginia News and Sports -
    The far-righies aren't interested in the full story... the partisan spin comforts them.

    Let's see, we know MMS was corrupt and inept under Bush. Finally, they're cleaning up bad operations.

    EPA does their job.

    Thank you EPA! Now start regulating CO2 emissions like SCOTUS told you to back in 2007.

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    Re: EPA shuts down one of the largest Coal Mines in U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    There's no need for cooperation when the non-renewables run out. I think that's the point he was making.
    If that is the point he is making he hasn't thought out his position. It will be possible to continue importing high priced crude oil from foreign dictators for a very long time. As the price increases so does the incentive to drill. For example, China and Cuba intend to drill for crude oil in the waters between Cuba and Florida. We only need pay the price for the oil. It will still be cheaper than renewables and alternatives without direct subsidies and tax credits.

    The point is that conservatives have the power to frustrate leftist hopes on renewables and alternatives. The left must deal with us or nothing will happen.

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    Re: EPA shuts down one of the largest Coal Mines in U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Fine let the Chinese do it.
    That works. Keep the country's current trajectory and the existing political and economic order will collapse. That works because it will then be impossible for the left to impose it's ideology and agenda on conservatives.

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    Re: EPA shuts down one of the largest Coal Mines in U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    The far-righies aren't interested in the full story... the partisan spin comforts them.

    Let's see, we know MMS was corrupt and inept under Bush. Finally, they're cleaning up bad operations.

    EPA does their job.

    Thank you EPA! Now start regulating CO2 emissions like SCOTUS told you to back in 2007.

    What conservatives should do is pass legislation making it a felony for federal officials to spend any federal monies on that crap.

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    Re: EPA shuts down one of the largest Coal Mines in U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    If that is the point he is making he hasn't thought out his position. It will be possible to continue importing high priced crude oil from foreign dictators for a very long time. As the price increases so does the incentive to drill. For example, China and Cuba intend to drill for crude oil in the waters between Cuba and Florida. We only need pay the price for the oil. It will still be cheaper than renewables and alternatives without direct subsidies and tax credits.

    The point is that conservatives have the power to frustrate leftist hopes on renewables and alternatives. The left must deal with us or nothing will happen.
    His point is still valid. "Eventually" encompasses a very long time.
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