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    Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter | Raw Story

    Maddow destroys GOP fantasy that more guns equals less violence

    Six people were killed and 14 more were injured when a gunman opened fire on an event outside a Tucson Safeway Saturday.

    The tragedy could have been even worse had an armed bystander not thought twice before shooting the hero that disarmed Jared Loughner, the alleged shooter.

    "I carry a gun so I was -- I felt like I was a little bit more prepared to do some good and than maybe somebody else would have been," Joe Zamudio told MSNBC's Ed Schultz Monday.

    "As I came out of the door of the Walgreens, sir, I saw several individuals wrestling with him and I came running. I was already at a full sprint and you know, there's no time to think about anything," he explained.

    "I saw another individual holding the firearm. I kind of assumed he was the shooter. So I grabbed his wrist and you know told him to drop it and forced him to drop the gun on the ground. When he did that, everybody says, no, no, it's this guy."

    "Did you ever think in drawing your firearm or you made the determination you didn't have to?" Schultz asked.

    "Sir, when I came through the door, I had my hand on the butt of my pistol and I clicked the safety off. I was ready to kill him. But I didn't have to do that and I was very blessed that I didn't have to go to that place," Zamudio replied.

    "I would have shot the man holding the gun," he added.

    "You would have used that firearm," Schultz pressed.

    "You're damn right," Zamudio said.

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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    Well it's a damned good thing he thought before he acted.
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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    I hear nothing but crickets out there.

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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    So a liberal talk show host is trying to argue that a guy showing up at the last minute with a gun somehow destroys the argument that had there been armed citizens there that the nutjob could have been stopped before shooting as many people?
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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    I hear nothing but crickets out there.
    Hmm?

    An educated and armed person is TAUGHT to 'think before you act' anyway - he's showing exemplary knowledge and self control as opposed to letting your emotions control your actions.
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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    I hear nothing but crickets out there.
    Good thing he showed some discipline. Yes? Sounds like a responsible gun owner, to me. Whatcha think?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So a liberal talk show host is trying to argue that a guy showing up at the last minute with a gun somehow destroys the argument that had there been armed citizens there that the nutjob could have been stopped before shooting a bunch of people?
    Regardless of what point he's trying to make its a undeniable reality that having a fire arm can make a case of mistaken identity extremely more consequential.

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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Regardless of what point he's trying to make its a undeniable reality that having a fire arm can make a case of mistaken identity extremely more consequential.
    True - which is why the importance of thinking pre-action is extremely EXTREMELY important.
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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Regardless of what point he's trying to make its a undeniable reality that having a fire arm can make a case of mistaken identity extremely more consequential.
    How many masss shooting occur in gun free zones? I think you're forgetting the deterence factor. Do these nutjobs walk into a biker bar and shoot the place up? What about a police station? Or, anywhere else where the victims are likely to be armed and ready to shoot back?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    True - which is why the importance of thinking pre-action is extremely EXTREMELY important.
    Of course no denying that either.

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