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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    He had the wrong weapon. He should have had a knife handy. A knife doesn't riochet.

    I think some of the Barney Fifes here would have gotten so excited they would have been shooting like a sprinkler. This kid knew he didn't need to shoot at someone already on the ground with several wrestling with him. It was pretty obvious.

    There are others here that would have coward in fear, hoping that the killing stopped before it was their turn to die, not lifting a ****ing finger to save themselves, much less their fellow human beings.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    And being there a minute earlier he could have used that fire arm to shoot the nutjob and it might have only been a couple of people shot. It seems the OP as well as the OP's link are trying to use a story of a gun owner exercising control to fuel some anti-2nd amendment agenda.
    Not at all, however I do believe arming everyone is complete nuts. I am not anti 2nd Amendment, I believe you have the right to protect yourself. But a 33 round Glock is insane.


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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Fort Hood probably has more small arms and weapons per person than anywhere else in the US except for other military installations.
    Actually - only MP's and maybe a few others are permitted to carry while in uniform / on duty.
    Said individuals cannot be armed by law within the US unless under actual orders to do so - and some branches of the military cannot function armed at all while on US soil.
    In the meatime - weapons are safed and stocked in an armory or other such facility.

    These tragedies happen, let's face it, because these people used a rapid-fire weapon . . . in which a large amount can be expelled in a short time - before anyone else possibly present with a firearm can respond in kind.
    A screaming comes across the sky.
    It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare it to now.
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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I think he's talking about before the individual is actively killing people. But you're gung-ho ness is noted
    its called reality



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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Not at all, however I do believe arming everyone is complete nuts. I am not anti 2nd Amendment, I believe you have the right to protect yourself. But a 33 round Glock is insane.
    so where do you draw the line



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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Fort Hood probably has more small arms and weapons per person than anywhere else in the US except for other military installations.
    How many hours would it take to issue weapons and ammunition to one platoon of soldiers on an Army post?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you know if some whack job starts busting caps at me or mine I am gonna kill him as fast as I can and maybe a week later start worrying about what caused him to go bezerk, not when he's gunning down people.

    I am not a health care professional but I am a highly trained pistol shot
    Wouldn't it be better if you didn't have to at all?
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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Actually - only MP's and maybe a few others are permitted to carry while in uniform / on duty.
    Said individuals cannot be armed by law within the US unless under actual orders to do so - and some branches of the military cannot function armed at all while on US soil.
    In the meatime - weapons are safed and stocked in an armory or other such facility.

    These tragedies happen, let's face it, because these people used a rapid-fire weapon . . . in which a large amount can be expelled in a short time - before anyone else possibly present with a firearm can respond in kind.
    O of course they're locked up and not in many cases readily available, especially with ammo at the same place. I was just trying to show there's more to these things than amount of weapons.

    Ok that was probably a stupid thing to say I assumed turtle was thinking just about amount of weapons being the only factor, I said that to "throw a wrench" into his thought process.
    Last edited by Wiseone; 01-14-11 at 11:11 PM.

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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    Just wondering is there still any confusion on what I was saying on page one about the dangers of not rightly identifying your target before you fire? And how what I'm saying is part of being an educated and responsible gun owner and nothing political?

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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Wouldn't it be better if you didn't have to at all?
    yeah that' like saying it would be nice if one didn't have to wear a condom either or buy auto insurance

    utopian nonsense



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