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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

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    you guys have a better argument for disarming cops

    do some research and find out which group misses the bad guys more and hits more innocents

    cops or armed citizens?
    I'm not sure what you're getting at but I get the feeling you still think I want to add to existing gun laws, in which I guess I really don't know how make my point any clearer.

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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    and not having a firearm can lead to massive deaths

    such as Fort Hood among others
    Both tragic situations could have been diverted or avoided completely if they pursued MENTAL HEALTH intervention.
    Arizona - in fact - has more legal means than Texas to intervene in this area.

    What makes a person like this tick and break?
    What are the warning signs?

    A mentally imbalanced person is a mentally imbalanced person - whether he as a gun or a toothpick - sooner of later he'll use it (usually on himself) but sometimes on others.

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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter



    "I saw another individual holding the firearm. I kind of assumed he was the shooter. So I grabbed his wrist and you know told him to drop it and forced him to drop the gun on the ground. When he did that, everybody says, no, no, it's this guy."

    Something smells very fishy here.I heard an interview with one of the guys who tackled him. They scooted the gun out of reach and someone picked it up and was told to put it back down and he did and put his foot on it.
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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    What this should tell everyone is that if you ever shoot the bad guy lay you weapon down and make no sudden moves until police come and sort things out, and avoid a domino effect and be shot by another armed citizen.

    I thought about this a lot when I was in AZ carrying a gun all the time.

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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    and not having a firearm can lead to massive deaths

    such as Fort Hood among others
    Fort Hood probably has more small arms and weapons per person than anywhere else in the US except for other military installations.

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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    Technically - he wasn't AT the shooting - at the time of the shooting he was checking out and paying for his items.
    He showed up AFTER it was over with and already under control...he just didn't realize it.
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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Both tragic situations could have been diverted or avoided completely if they pursued MENTAL HEALTH intervention.
    Arizona - in fact - has more legal means than Texas to intervene in this area.

    What makes a person like this tick and break?
    What are the warning signs?

    A mentally imbalanced person is a mentally imbalanced person - whether he as a gun or a toothpick - sooner of later he'll use it (usually on himself) but sometimes on others.

    The only true prevention is knowledge - and a damned crystal ball.
    you know if some whack job starts busting caps at me or mine I am gonna kill him as fast as I can and maybe a week later start worrying about what caused him to go bezerk, not when he's gunning down people.

    I am not a health care professional but I am a highly trained pistol shot



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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

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    Fort Hood probably has more small arms and weapons per person than anywhere else in the US except for other military installations.
    I guess you didn't know that the soldiers shot down were disarmed

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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you know if some whack job starts busting caps at me or mine I am gonna kill him as fast as I can and maybe a week later start worrying about what caused him to go bezerk, not when he's gunning down people.

    I am not a health care professional but I am a highly trained pistol shot
    I think he's talking about before the individual is actively killing people. But you're gung-ho ness is noted

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