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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    More effective like what?
    You use what you've got - if a key's all you got then a key's all you got.

    I can't imagine me having mace will help at all - I can't even find my cell phone when it rings. But my keys are always in my hand whilst I walk.
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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    But at the same time our country is classified as one of the most violent. Everyone's supposedly desensitized because of too much sex, too much violence, not enough human-connection. Not as much motherly love is making everyone a gruff fighter before they can walk.

    Everyone's supposedly ****ed up, in therapy and broken.

    So which one is it? We're becoming too pussified or we're going 50-grit?

    Some of both.

    Being tough... that is, having the courage to act at peril of your life when the need arises... is not the same as being a thug. Thugs walk around looking for trouble, for opportunties to victimize those weaker than themselves.

    Being a tough person to who can take care of biz at need is not the same as being an A-hole. A-holes walk around obsessed with their own agenda, their own life and plans. Everyone they come into contact with is either a tool to be used, an obstacle to be removed, or a walking Cheeseburger to be eaten.

    We have too many wusses, thugs and A-holes these days, and not enough good people tough enough to deal with trouble.

    As my Dad put it to me many years ago: "A real man doesn't go looking for trouble, but when trouble comes looking for him he's ready for it. He stands up for himself, his wife and kids, and he doesn't tolerate seeing the strong abuse the weak in his presence."

    I took that advice to heart and try to live by it.

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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    Does it strike anyone else comical that we had a 22 year old ****head that killed and wounded several people, and yet we are still talking about everything BUT the actual kid, his REAL inspiration and motivation, and the failings of a local law enforcement agency that then blamed everyone but their OWN inaction and interactions with the shooter?

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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    Well as he said, thankfully he didn't have to shoot him.
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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    What proves this man was not an uninformed law-abiding citizen who did not know what was happening at that very moment?

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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by Draco View Post
    What proves this man was not an uninformed law-abiding citizen who did not know what was happening at that very moment?
    Couldn't quite figure that out. Want to try again with a bit more detail?

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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Couldn't quite figure that out. Want to try again with a bit more detail?
    Too many negatives, let's take those out and see if it makes more sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Draco View Post
    What proves this man was not an uninformed law-abiding citizen who did not know what was happening at that very moment?
    What proves that this man was an informed law-abiding citizen who did know what was happening at that very moment?

    Better?
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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I'm not sure what you're getting at but I get the feeling you still think I want to add to existing gun laws, in which I guess I really don't know how make my point any clearer.
    Regardless of what point he's trying to make its a undeniable reality that having a fire arm can make a case of mistaken identity extremely more consequential.
    ^^^ Maybe because you felt compelled out of guilt or some other bull**** to post this. Are your points always UNDENIABLE??? Boy when you say it, that's it isn't it? You da Man! How many other absolutes could we bring aboard this debate. How about starting a car and backing it out of your driveway....ooohhh, there's a chance for another death.
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    Re: Armed bystander almost shot hero that disarmed AZ shooter

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Too many negatives, let's take those out and see if it makes more sense.



    What proves that this man was an informed law-abiding citizen who did know what was happening at that very moment?

    Better?
    The man may have been a law-abiding citizen who did not know the scenario that was transpiring. By his latter account of being glad he didn't shoot---now understanding the scenario---it would appear he was an uninformed law-abiding citizen.

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