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    Re: Family charged 'death tax' for baby who lived one hour

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You seem to have missed a couple of important words. Which is weird, seeing as how they were the first two words.
    You mean 'legally speaking' of course.

    You're still wrong... it's still your opinion, not LEGAL or scientific fact.

    Ever hear the name Scott Peterson? He was convicted of killing his wife AND their unborn child. How, exactly, could he have been convicted of killing something that was never alive? Legally speaking, of course.

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    Re: Family charged 'death tax' for baby who lived one hour

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    You mean 'legally speaking' of course.

    You're still wrong... it's still your opinion, not LEGAL or scientific fact.

    Ever hear the name Scott Peterson? He was convicted of killing his wife AND their unborn child. How, exactly, could he have been convicted of killing something that was never alive? Legally speaking, of course.

    that's what the pro-choice side refuses to accept. There is ample legal precedent for a fetus to be considered "alive". There have been several cases where a person has been convicted of killing an unborn child. if it is not alive, then how can you be convicted of killing it?

    I guess a fetus is only alive if someone other than the mother kills it.
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    Re: Family charged 'death tax' for baby who lived one hour

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    You mean 'legally speaking' of course.

    You're still wrong... it's still your opinion, not LEGAL or scientific fact.

    Ever hear the name Scott Peterson? He was convicted of killing his wife AND their unborn child. How, exactly, could he have been convicted of killing something that was never alive? Legally speaking, of course.
    Why yes, in some other situation things happen differently.
    But in THIS situation, an unborn child is not charged for an examination fee because they were never born and there's no reason to investigate the cause of death. (IT WAS THE ABORTION. CASE CLOSED)
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    Re: Family charged 'death tax' for baby who lived one hour

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Why yes, in some other situation things happen differently.
    But in THIS situation, an unborn child is not charged for an examination fee because they were never born and there's no reason to investigate the cause of death. (IT WAS THE ABORTION. CASE CLOSED)
    Perhaps if you had actually said what you meant in the first place....

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    Re: Family charged 'death tax' for baby who lived one hour

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Why yes, in some other situation things happen differently.
    But in THIS situation, an unborn child is not charged for an examination fee because they were never born and there's no reason to investigate the cause of death. (IT WAS THE ABORTION. CASE CLOSED)
    sorry dude, but just because the cause of death (abortion) is obvious, shouldn't exempt the family from the death tax. either you pay the "tax" for EVERY death, or you pay it for none.


    I can think of dozens of examples of where the cause of death is obvious and there would be no need to investigate....but they do anyway and make those families pay the tax.
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    Re: Family charged 'death tax' for baby who lived one hour

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    Legally vs.'actually is what separates savages from those who value life.


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    Re: Family charged 'death tax' for baby who lived one hour

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Legally speaking, a fetus was never alive and therefore doesn't have a death to investigate.

    Of course, you knew that already. You were just trying to make the point that...

    ...

    hmmm
    There are born alive abortions. Gross but true. So should the mother be charged a $50 death tax if the baby lives outside her womb?
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    Re: Family charged 'death tax' for baby who lived one hour

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    sorry dude, but just because the cause of death (abortion) is obvious, shouldn't exempt the family from the death tax. either you pay the "tax" for EVERY death, or you pay it for none.


    I can think of dozens of examples of where the cause of death is obvious and there would be no need to investigate....but they do anyway and make those families pay the tax.
    Keep in mind that this particular "death tax" we're debatin isn't for ALL deaths - it's for those which are 'investigated' (autopsied, etc) as a means of learning the cause of death.

    Ergo - if you know the cause, there's no mystery to discover - no autopsy - no 'death tax'

    But again - I'm totally against the entire notion.
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