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    Re: Family charged 'death tax' for baby who lived one hour

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Legally speaking, a fetus was never alive and therefore doesn't have a death to investigate.

    Of course, you knew that already. You were just trying to make the point that...

    ...

    hmmm
    And a very poignant point it was!

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    Re: Family charged 'death tax' for baby who lived one hour

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    That's your opinion, not scientific fact.

    when does life begin?
    You seem to have missed a couple of important words. Which is weird, seeing as how they were the first two words.

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    And a very poignant point it was!
    I'm sure it was!
    If only I could figure out WHAT it was...
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    Re: Family charged 'death tax' for baby who lived one hour

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So you're saying that child doesn't deserve to be treated as a person because she wasn't old enough?

    See, lots of ways to spin this.
    Whatcha think about smacking Christina Green's folks with a death tax?
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    Re: Family charged 'death tax' for baby who lived one hour

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Wanna know what would push me over the edge and cause me to hurt somebody? After I got done burying my hour old baby girl, I get hit with a death tax.

    If I were these folks, I would tell them to shove their death tax up their ass and wouldn't pay it.
    Given this discussion as already deteriorated beyond the human suffering to the mundane issue of taxes, I will argue as equally dispassionately.

    Its not a tax, its a user fee. I thought those that did not like taxes were all for user fees. Without this user fee, the cost is spread amongst all taxpayers.
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    Re: Family charged 'death tax' for baby who lived one hour

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You seem to have missed a couple of important words. Which is weird, seeing as how they were the first two words.



    I'm sure it was!
    If only I could figure out WHAT it was...
    Come now...you REALLY cant figure out why the question was posed in light of the fact that a mother can choose to have a doctor slaughter her unborn child but that same child can be born with little to no expectation of life (due to natural causes) and they deem it necessary to perform an autopsy for a finding of 'fault'? Really? I mean...ideological differences aside...REALLY?

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    Re: Family charged 'death tax' for baby who lived one hour

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Given this discussion as already deteriorated beyond the human suffering to the mundane issue of taxes, I will argue as equally dispassionately.

    Its not a tax, its a user fee. I thought those that did not like taxes were all for user fees. Without this user fee, the cost is spread amongst all taxpayers.
    The point is more that it is an unnecessary procedure forced on the family that is already grieving the loss of a child.

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    Re: Family charged 'death tax' for baby who lived one hour

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Given this discussion as already deteriorated beyond the human suffering to the mundane issue of taxes, I will argue as equally dispassionately.

    Its not a tax, its a user fee. I thought those that did not like taxes were all for user fees. Without this user fee, the cost is spread amongst all taxpayers.
    Read Vancemack's post. Maybe you'll get it, too.

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Come now...you REALLY cant figure out why the question was posed in light of the fact that a mother can choose to have a doctor slaughter her unborn child but that same child can be born with little to no expectation of life (due to natural causes) and they deem it necessary to perform an autopsy for a finding of 'fault'? Really? I mean...ideological differences aside...REALLY?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Family charged 'death tax' for baby who lived one hour

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So you're saying that child doesn't deserve to be treated as a person because she wasn't old enough?

    See, lots of ways to spin this.
    Yeah, like an hour's difference between an abortion and a live birth.
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    Re: Family charged 'death tax' for baby who lived one hour

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Given this discussion as already deteriorated beyond the human suffering to the mundane issue of taxes, I will argue as equally dispassionately.

    Its not a tax, its a user fee. I thought those that did not like taxes were all for user fees. Without this user fee, the cost is spread amongst all taxpayers.
    And in this case, what would you say exactly was "used?"

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    Re: Family charged 'death tax' for baby who lived one hour

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Legally speaking, a fetus was never alive and therefore doesn't have a death to investigate.

    Of course, you knew that already. You were just trying to make the point that...

    ...

    hmmm

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