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    Most Anti-Health Care Reform Democrats Voting Against Repeal Anyway


    Today was the first test vote and guess what? That big Democratic vote to repeal the health care reform bill didn't show up.

    Excerpted from “Most Anti-Health Care Reform Democrats Voting Against Repeal Anyway” Posted Friday, January 07, 2011 3:34 PM | By David Weigel
    Thirteen members of the current Democratic conference voted against the Affordable Care Act. Today, four Democrats voted to proceed to debate on the repeal bill. …
    Just four Democrats voted with Republicans to debate repeal of health care reform? It's not the big bipartisan vote Upton predicted.
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    Re: Most Anti-Health Care Reform Democrats Voting Against Repeal Anyway

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post

    Today was the first test vote and guess what? That big Democratic vote to repeal the health care reform bill didn't show up.



    Just four Democrats voted with Republicans to debate repeal of health care reform? It's not the big bipartisan vote Upton predicted.
    You mean only four Democrats joined with them on a meaningless procedural vote instead of the thirteen that they had said they were hoping to get to join them on an entirely different vote?

    I wonder if the NYT already went to print? It would be a shame if they couldn't get this earth-shaking story in the A-6 column for tomorrow.
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    Re: Most Anti-Health Care Reform Democrats Voting Against Repeal Anyway

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    You mean only four Democrats joined with them on a meaningless procedural vote instead of the thirteen that they had said they were hoping to get to join them on an entirely different vote? …
    I heard tonight that one of the four won't be voting for repeal next week. The point is that Republicans claimed this would be bipartisan movement in the House that would catch fire and compel the Senate to act accordingly, too. That won't be happening after today's vote.
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    Re: Most Anti-Health Care Reform Democrats Voting Against Repeal Anyway

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    I heard tonight that one of the four won't be voting for repeal next week. The point is that Republicans claimed this would be bipartisan movement in the House that would catch fire and compel the Senate to act accordingly, too. That won't be happening after today's vote.
    One Republican said that he thought several Democrats would vote one way. It turned out that a smaller number voted that way. On a procedural vote.

    Scintillating.
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    Re: Most Anti-Health Care Reform Democrats Voting Against Repeal Anyway

    Stay tuned.
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    Re: Most Anti-Health Care Reform Democrats Voting Against Repeal Anyway

    stay tuned

    repeal will pass lower house along party lines, then stall upstairs

    it will go far to determine the 2012 landscape

    boehner's boys and broads will then repeal the pig piece by piece, starting with the mandate

    when we want, we'll whoosh THAT thru the house

    and waiting upstairs will be missouri's claire mccaskill, who this week declared

    McCaskill moves away from mandate - David Catanese - POLITICO.com

    mccaskill wants to keep her job

    71% in her state voted AGAINST the mandate in august in the form of measure c

    the show me senator is probably not alone---manchin in west virginia, conrad in dakota, tester in montana, nelson in nebraska...

    even jiltin joe lieberman (strong OPPONENT, for instance, of the public option)

    and that's just the beginning

    we're gonna take on the 1099's, the hiring of extra irs agents (the tax collectors' "internal watchdog" this week blasted the agency for "tormenting" the targets of its audits), medicare fraud, cuts to medicare, the unfunded burden on states, the compilation of personal data...

    the repeal wars will continue for a long time, in congress, in the courts, in the capitols (where my side owns the gubs, leg's, ag's, insurance commissioners)

    stay tuned, it's gonna get hot

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    Re: Most Anti-Health Care Reform Democrats Voting Against Repeal Anyway

    since any literate person in the western hemisphere realizes repeal of the law is impossible, allow me to skew this topic a bit and ask the following: would it not be more productive to bring up the spector of an amendment to the constitution saying that the federal government cannot force people to participate in a given market (such as the health insurance market)?

    not that such an amendment would pass, but it would at least change the debate to something other than what it has been for 2 years. i'm pretty sure people's opinions are set on the health care reform. beating a dead horse is only good for glue manufacturers.
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    Re: Most Anti-Health Care Reform Democrats Voting Against Repeal Anyway

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyroh View Post
    since any literate person in the western hemisphere realizes repeal of the law is impossible, allow me to skew this topic a bit and ask the following: would it not be more productive to bring up the spector of an amendment to the constitution saying that the federal government cannot force people to participate in a given market (such as the health insurance market)?

    not that such an amendment would pass, but it would at least change the debate to something other than what it has been for 2 years. i'm pretty sure people's opinions are set on the health care reform. beating a dead horse is only good for glue manufacturers.
    No need to amend The Constitution. ObamaKare is unconstitutional... unfortunately we had a group of political hacks that don't give a damn about The Constitution, and used all manner of dirty tricks to pass the piece of crap.

    The fish rots from the top down, and the top of the Dem party has never been so thoroughly rotten.

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    Re: Most Anti-Health Care Reform Democrats Voting Against Repeal Anyway

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post

    Today was the first test vote and guess what? That big Democratic vote to repeal the health care reform bill didn't show up.



    Just four Democrats voted with Republicans to debate repeal of health care reform? It's not the big bipartisan vote Upton predicted.
    Wow, you aren't getting it.

    This will be your 2012 election, right here. As the economic rebound slowly recovers from the stimulus mistakes, the election will be all about big, gigantic, massive, intrusive government (Democrats) versus lesser, restrained, less-involved, truncated government (Republicans).

    You are going to lose your ass in 2012. It's going to be ug...ly.

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    Re: Most Anti-Health Care Reform Democrats Voting Against Repeal Anyway

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Wow, you aren't getting it.

    This will be your 2012 election, right here. As the economic rebound slowly recovers from the stimulus mistakes, the election will be all about big, gigantic, massive, intrusive government (Democrats) versus lesser, restrained, less-involved, truncated government (Republicans).

    You are going to lose your ass in 2012. It's going to be ug...ly.
    There will be no recovery for years.
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