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    Re: Muslims to act as "human shields" at Coptic Christmas Eve mass

    Wait, you mean there are Muslims that aren't terrorist?! There's Muslims in Egypt that actually stood together and protected "Christians" and they didnt call them infidels but . . . . . . . . . .fellow Egyptians?!?!?!?

    That can't possibly be true that's made up
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    Re: Muslims to act as "human shields" at Coptic Christmas Eve mass

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig
    Also a Lie, if you'll, read my post at the bottom of the last page which welcomes this turn of events, but does view them in Light of Actual recent history/sceptically. (I again refer the bd to ie, Copts.com)
    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvil
    Your sentiment came across about as genuine as a $3 bill, and it's pretty obvious I'm not the only one who feels that way. Seeing as how 99% of your "contribution" to this thread has been to cast doubt on the value of this event, you'll get no sympathy from anybody else if you were misunderstood.
    My sentiment was 100% sincere and admittedly/as I stated, "Ironic"/"Sceptical", in light of the state of history both distant and Recent.
    All, including you, were very clear on this

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig
    Which doesn't answer my rational posts as to the Actual state of affairs re the Copts.
    "Good enough" for me would be a Real and permanent change in behavior/law/practice by Egyptian Muslims and their govt in their discriminatory policies and hostile acts.
    Quote Originally Posted by TacticlEvil
    "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step."

    -- Lao-tzu
    So then we are agreed, or at least you have Unwittingly, that this is "one step in a thousand miles".
    That's even/much Less than the 1% (100-99) you accuse me of having.
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    Re: Muslims to act as "human shields" at Coptic Christmas Eve mass

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    And some people think nationalism is a bad thing.
    Only in Europe where nationalism and power have proven to be too much for people to handle, which is why they scoff at ours.

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    Re: Muslims to act as "human shields" at Coptic Christmas Eve mass

    Quote Originally Posted by iangb View Post

    So your response to people trying to put the prejudices of the past behind them is to say "hey, stop that! You're ignoring your rich tradition of killing each other!"?
    I certainly did NOT say "stop", and yet you get 3 thanks for this garbage reply.

    I posted much else in the thread, and another today, in a related topic, you could say nothing about.
    Instead we get this grotesque putting of words in my mouth/Non-quotation.
    This is beyond Disingenuity.
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    Re: Muslims to act as "human shields" at Coptic Christmas Eve mass

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Shame the Daily Mail or Fox News wont be running this any time soon.
    Well, villifying FOX won't change the fact that no major news outlet will replace sensational drama with good news. I have been telling you people that this modernist activity has been stregthening since 2003, but you won't listen. No matter your media outlet, IEDs and death define the region and nothing else.

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    Re: Muslims to act as "human shields" at Coptic Christmas Eve mass

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Color me impressed. Its a good beginning...a good sign. I hope that more and more this becomes the norm.
    It's not a first step. This kind of activity across the region at the government and social level have been going on for years. People are just paying attention now.

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    Re: Muslims to act as "human shields" at Coptic Christmas Eve mass

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    I certainly did NOT say "stop", and yet you get 3 thanks for this garbage reply.

    I posted much else in the thread, and another today, in a related topic, you could say nothing about.
    Instead we get this grotesque putting of words in my mouth/Non-quotation.
    This is beyond Disingenuity.
    The number of threads I'm active in at the moment is in the double figures... and I have a social life. Don't worry, I'll get to you.

    Your posts were incredibly hasty to remind us that there exists a history of religious violence, which indicates that you want us to focus on the violence and ignore the tolerance. While the 'stop' was hyperbole on my part, it was based on the apparent fact that the tolerant actions of Egyptian Muslims are threatening your worldview of Islam.
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    Re: Muslims to act as "human shields" at Coptic Christmas Eve mass

    Quote Originally Posted by iangb View Post
    The number of threads I'm active in at the moment is in the double figures... and I have a social life. Don't worry, I'll get to you.
    However briefly.


    Your posts were incredibly hasty to remind us that there exists a history of religious violence, which indicates that you want us to focus on the violence and ignore the tolerance. While the 'stop' was hyperbole on my part, it was based on the apparent fact that the tolerant actions of Egyptian Muslims are threatening your worldview of Islam.
    I disagree with your subjective description "hasty."
    I felt it only fair/perspective-giving to point out that right up until this happened (ie, even all through December), it was business a usual.
    Google away or again... go to Copts.com.

    And when you used the caricature quote, even it was seriously off and shows a lack of understanding of the situation in Egypt.
    "hey, stop that! You're ignoring your rich tradition of killing each other!"?
    There's NOT "a rich tradition of killing each other".
    There's a rich tradition of ONE-way and institutionalized persecution of the Copts by Egyptian Muslims and their govt.
    Not unlike the non-Muslim minorities in many other countries. The ones that are even left that is.

    Which leads to my post on the last page in which I explain my special problem with Islam.
    I think I laid out the basic problem/'worldview' .. if very briefly.
    Be glad to debate it (it's still there).. and probably could just by requoting my many other debates already on this board.
    It gets to be tedious laying out the places, facts, and figures, which could lead one to no other conclusion.
    Confirmed, tellingly and ultimately, by Muslim reformers and their perilous situation.
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    Re: Muslims to act as "human shields" at Coptic Christmas Eve mass

    mbig: from reading your posts, it seems that your problem is not with Islam itself, but with the literalist/fundamentalist interpretation of Islam. If that's the case, then you won't get much disagreement from me.

    The disagreement comes when you start to think that such extremism is indicative of the entire demographic. As indicated by the word 'extremist', that's blatantly not the case - and the subject of the OP is a vindication of this.
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    Re: Muslims to act as "human shields" at Coptic Christmas Eve mass

    Quote Originally Posted by iangb View Post

    mbig: from reading your posts, it seems that your problem is not with Islam itself, but with the literalist/fundamentalist interpretation of Islam. If that's the case, then you won't get much disagreement from me.

    The disagreement comes when you start to think that such extremism is indicative of the entire demographic. As indicated by the word 'extremist', that's blatantly not the case - and the subject of the OP is a vindication of this.
    Good ian.
    Been looking to discuss with someone who doesn't have alot of political baggage/hamstrung by PC/Leftism etc, and who has some background scientifically and otherwise

    So let's not start (if we are starting) by using the strawman "entire demographic".
    We're both, I hope, above such tactics.

    My usual numbers are [roughly] 1/3 pure Islamist, 1/3 who agree or would never disagree with group one and who are still Conservative Literalists, and perhaps 1/3 who would like a more secular religion even tho many of them would also say they're literalist. The latter group reading the Koran more liberally even if many are huggers of it.
    I think those are rather generous considering some polls I could cite.
    (ie attitudes on 'importance of religion in daily life', Sharia, Homosexuality, etc)

    Only in the RELATIVE/PC world of descriptions of Islam could many contries be considered 'moderate'.. while maintaining many strict tenets of religion; Shariah etc.

    As I was saying the other day in the Europe section..
    A Muslim with the IDENTICAL politics of "Radical", "Right Wing" "Fundamentalists" as Falwell, Roberston et al and MORE... (ie, Homosexual-intolerant, wants Sharia law, Jail time for criticism of Islam, Anti-Woman, Antisemitic, etc etc) is considered a moderate by Euro-liberals.
    Only if you are a suicide bomber according to virtually all in that section are you an 'islamist'/Radical/etc
    Yes, according to many in that section, the Muslim version of Falwell/Roberstson they joyfully mock... is 'moderate'.
    alexa insisting there is no Islamism problem in the UK.
    it's unreal.

    And that's just Muslims in the West!
    One could, as I have many times, further elucidate worldwide from Mauritania to Mindinao; the Long "islamic Frontline" where people die EVERY Day in the name of Islam. (why bother with the fudgy 'ism')
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