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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    How ironic is it that our black president is a big supporter of PP and vice versa?
    I find it frightening that ANY person would be a supporter of killing innocent human fetuses.


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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    No one needs to teach teens how to have sex. They have a way of figuring it out on their own. The problem is teaching teens to have sex safely, while at the same time telling them that abstinence is still a better option. That last message is lost in modern media that depicts casual sex as the norm.

    Teaching them the truth about STDs helps, except that teens seem to have "oh, it won't happen to me" attitude toward any sort of risk, from AIDS to car crashes.

    Meanwhile, values are taught in the home, and the values taught by unprepared teen parents are likely to result in more teen parents. It's a vicious circle.

    And the question becomes how to discourage abortion, while at the same time discouraging people who can't raise children from having them. There are no simple answers to that one, are there?
    Very well thought posting. I too find the number in NYC shocking.

    But have no idea why the Reps here claim PP is liberal driven to kill off democrat babies yet on other threads the Reps say the Dems want illegals in the US for more Dem voters.
    Do those two thoughts even make sense?

    So if PP is the Dems attempt to educate youth what is the Reps? Please don't say Bristol Palin's Abstinence Program as it didn't even work for her. But in reality I really doubt the Reps care about these people than other to use them for their political motives.

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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Not so many years ago, that would have been seen as an ultra liberal stance. Do you remember when condoms had "for the control of diseases only" on them and when birth control for anyone was highly controversial? I do, and yes, I know that dates me some.

    Anyway, I totally agree with birth control being made widely available, and information on it being dispensed to anyone who is interested, even to minors without parental consent. That alone would decrease abortion rates, probably more than simply outlawing the procedure. Here is an organization that is in the birth control business.
    And the first thing in your link listed under womens health is Abortions. That's the real business PP is in.


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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    So now that they have those numbers, maybe it's time to try and figure out why there's such a huge difference in the number of abortions depending on the demographics. There has to be a reason why Black women are having so many abortions compared to everyone else.
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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    So if PP is the Dems attempt to educate youth what is the Reps?
    healthy f-a-m-i-l-i-e-s

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    tragically too few in new york, bringing great sorrow to many of us

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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    No one needs to teach teens how to have sex. They have a way of figuring it out on their own. The problem is teaching teens to have sex safely, while at the same time telling them that abstinence is still a better option. That last message is lost in modern media that depicts casual sex as the norm.

    Teaching them the truth about STDs helps, except that teens seem to have "oh, it won't happen to me" attitude toward any sort of risk, from AIDS to car crashes.

    Meanwhile, values are taught in the home, and the values taught by unprepared teen parents are likely to result in more teen parents. It's a vicious circle.

    And the question becomes how to discourage abortion, while at the same time discouraging people who can't raise children from having them. There are no simple answers to that one, are there?
    No. I understand wanting to teach teens about safe sex and contraceptives based on the assumption that teens will have sex anyway. The problem, as I see it, is making the information available without making it look like it's tacit encouragement of kids having sex before they should. If sex ed actually encourages teens to have sex, then that only contributes to the problem and these abortion numbers seem to suggest that's actually what's happening. I do totally agree with the part I bolded.
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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    healthy f-a-m-i-l-i-e-s

    hello

    tragically too few in new york, bringing great sorrow to many of us
    Then it appears with these numbers the Reps attempt has been about successful as the Dems attempt, correct?

    And it if it your assertion that unhealthy families have unplanned pregnancies would that include a upper middle class family like the Palins?
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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    NYC has one of the most comprehensive free condom programs imaginable.





    They're handed out everywhere like candy, for free. In addition, every bodega on every block has condoms for sale.

    The high abortion rates in NYC have nothing to do with a lack of availability of condoms.
    I live in NYC and have not heard of this, lol.

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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Then it appears with these numbers the Reps attempt has been about successful as the Dems attempt, correct?
    the american family is tragically troubled a long time now

    it comes down to values, they're changing

    And it if it your assertion that unhealthy families have unplanned pregnancies would that include a upper middle class family like the Palins?
    no family is perfect

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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Then it appears with these numbers the Reps attempt has been about successful as the Dems attempt, correct?

    And it if it your assertion that unhealthy families have unplanned pregnancies would that include a upper middle class family like the Palins?
    Healthy families have unplanned pregnancies too. The difference is that healthy families love the unplanned children just as much as the planned ones.

    My last grandson was not supposed to have been born as soon as he was. There is less than a year and a half between him and his older brother, after all. Still, that doesn't mean he is any less loved and cherished as the other children. That's what healthy families do.
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