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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Does that mean that the non racist conservatives (self described) are supporters of forced parenthood?
    Who's forcing anyone to conceive children?
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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Does that mean that the non racist conservatives (self described) are supporters of forced parenthood?
    See what I mean?
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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

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    Who's forcing anyone to conceive children?
    I suppose anyone who opposes birth control. Perhaps "unplanned parenthood" would have been a better phrase to be the opposite of "planned parenthood."
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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I suppose anyone who opposes birth control. Perhaps "unplanned parenthood" would have been a better phrase to be the opposite of "planned parenthood."
    Obviously you're not familiar with the origins of Planned Parenthood.

    Meet the founder of Planned Parenthood

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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I suppose anyone who opposes birth control. Perhaps "unplanned parenthood" would have been a better phrase to be the opposite of "planned parenthood."
    I have no problem with birth control that prevents pregnancy.
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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    What makes you think those babies would grow up to be Democrats?
    because blacks and hispanics strongly tend to vote that way

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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

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    I have no problem with birth control that prevents pregnancy.
    Not so many years ago, that would have been seen as an ultra liberal stance. Do you remember when condoms had "for the control of diseases only" on them and when birth control for anyone was highly controversial? I do, and yes, I know that dates me some.

    Anyway, I totally agree with birth control being made widely available, and information on it being dispensed to anyone who is interested, even to minors without parental consent. That alone would decrease abortion rates, probably more than simply outlawing the procedure. Here is an organization that is in the birth control business.
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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    this is one of the saddest (and on another level, most disgusting) stories seen around here

    even the most ardent apologists for abortion usually insist aloud that the procedure be SAFE, LEGAL and RARE

    and, in this case, 2 outta 3 turns out tragic

    as for planned parenthood, in late 2007 and early 2008 ucla students from the newspaper the advocate made "sting" style phone calls to pp, pretending to be donors who would contribute to sanger's association only if the money were used to abort blacks

    An investigation, undertaken by students at the University of California at Los Angeles newspaper, The Advocate, revealed troubling responses from Planned Parenthood staffers when asked by an actor, posing as a “donor,” if he could earmark his contribution for abortions for “black babies” only.

    In one example, Autumn Kersey, vice president for marketing at Planned Parenthood of Idaho, is asked whether a donation can be specified “to help a minority group … like the black community, for example.”

    “Certainly,” Kersey says in a taped response in which she sounds genuinely encouraged by the offer. “If you wanted to designate that your gift be used to help an African-American woman in need, then we would certainly make sure the gift as earmarked for that purpose.”

    The caller responds: “Great, because I really faced trouble with affirmative action, and I don’t want my kids to be disadvantaged against black kids. I just had a baby; I want to put it in his name.”

    Kersey responds, “Absolutely.”

    The "donor" proceeds to proclaim that “the less black kids out there the better,” followed by, “understandable, understandable,” by Kersey, who laughed as if he were joking.

    “Excuse my hesitation, this is the first time that I’ve had a donor call and make this kind of request, so I’m excited and want to make sure I don’t leave anything out,” she is recorded saying.

    Kersey's and other statements were culled from calls to Planned Parenthood clinics in six states. In each, the staff person answering the call expressed an interest in taking the donations despite the caller’s overtly racist commentary.
    pp's response:

    “A fundraising employee violated the organization’s principles and practices when she appeared to be willing to accept a racially motivated donation,” said the Idaho-based organization told the Idaho Statesman. “We apologize for the manner in which this offensive call was handled. We take full responsibility for the actions of the fundraising staff member who created the impression that racism of any form would be tolerated at Planned Parenthood. We took swift action to ensure that each of our employees understands their responsibility to communicate clearly with donors about the fact that we believe in helping all individuals, regardless of gender, race or sexual orientation, make informed decisions about their reproductive health care.”
    Pastors Accuse Planned Parenthood for 'Genocide' on Blacks - Politics | Republican Party | Democratic Party | Political Spectrum - FOXNews.com

    sorry to say

    best wishes all, give your kids a hug, call em if they're outta state

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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Not so many years ago, that would have been seen as an ultra liberal stance. Do you remember when condoms had "for the control of diseases only" on them and when birth control for anyone was highly controversial? I do, and yes, I know that dates me some.
    So that actually makes me a moderate. Who knew?

    Anyway, I totally agree with birth control being made widely available, and information on it being dispensed to anyone who is interested, even to minors without parental consent. That alone would decrease abortion rates, probably more than simply outlawing the procedure. Here is an organization that is in the birth control business.
    Contraceptives and sex ed have been widely available for some time now, yet it apparently has not reduced abortion rates. Makes you wonder if teaching teens how to have sex is really a good idea.
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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    So that actually makes me a moderate. Who knew?

    Contraceptives and sex ed have been widely available for some time now, yet it apparently has not reduced abortion rates. Makes you wonder if teaching teens how to have sex is really a good idea.
    No one needs to teach teens how to have sex. They have a way of figuring it out on their own. The problem is teaching teens to have sex safely, while at the same time telling them that abstinence is still a better option. That last message is lost in modern media that depicts casual sex as the norm.

    Teaching them the truth about STDs helps, except that teens seem to have "oh, it won't happen to me" attitude toward any sort of risk, from AIDS to car crashes.

    Meanwhile, values are taught in the home, and the values taught by unprepared teen parents are likely to result in more teen parents. It's a vicious circle.

    And the question becomes how to discourage abortion, while at the same time discouraging people who can't raise children from having them. There are no simple answers to that one, are there?
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