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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    There may be fewer abortions in your state than in mine. No doubt there are more among Democrats than among Republicans, as the latter is more likely to be pro life.

    Hey! Maybe it's a plot by Republicans to.... No, that's just paranoia, much like the idea that abortion is being used to decrease the number of blacks.
    In point of fact.......source

    She discussed her views on abortion rights and sexual equality in a 2009 New York Times interview, in which she said regarding abortion that "[t]he basic thing is that the government has no business making that choice for a woman."[20] One statement she made during the interview ("Frankly, I had thought at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don't want to have too many of.")[20]





    Political opportunist... isn't that redundant?
    Point taken.


    Certainly, as should the decision of whether or not to carry the pregnancy to term. Authority to make decisions should be tied to responsibility.

    On this we disagree.




    Can't disagree with that one.
    ....and on this one we agree.
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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I think we would have preffered 49.5 living people who weren't murdered by their mother's and "doctor."
    Even if they were New Yorkers? Can you imagine the impact that would have had on the last election?

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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    particularly growth in populations that we don't want to have too many of[/B].")

    I think we have all the New Yorkers we need, at present, if not way more than is beneficial.

    p.s. Stop with the stupid annoying font.

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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

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    I support my view quite sufficiently - mine hinges heavily one the inescapable financial, emotional, and practicle aspects of parents and family-rearing.
    You mean convenience.

    Though I oppose abortion-for-convenience - a large % of abortions are for legitimate and very understandable reasons.
    Convenience is legitimate?

    Here is the breakdown of why women abort.
    Reasons for abortions... convenience denoted on Bold Red

    In 2000, cases of rape or incest accounted for 1% of abortions.[28] Another study, in 1998, revealed that in 1987-1988 women reported the following reasons for choosing an abortion:[29]

    25.5% Want to postpone childbearing
    21.3% Cannot afford a baby
    14.1% Has relationship problem or partner does not want pregnancy
    12.2% Too young; parent(s) or other(s) object to pregnancy
    10.8% Having a child will disrupt education or job
    7.9% Want no (more) children
    * 3.3% Risk to fetal health
    * 2.8% Risk to maternal health
    * 2.1% Other
    Abortion in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    That illustrates 91.8% of abortions are for convenience.
    It jibes with the fact about 150,000 abortions were performed in 1970. Since Roe v. Wade is has been about a million per year.

    Then we have this about late term abortions:
    Convenience denoted on Bold Red

    According to a 1987 study that included specific data about late abortions (i.e. abortions “at 16 or more weeks' gestation”),[30] women reported that various reasons contributed to their having a late abortion:

    71% Woman didn't recognize she was pregnant or misjudged gestation
    48% Woman found it hard to make arrangements for abortion
    33% Woman was afraid to tell her partner or parents
    24% Woman took time to decide to have an abortion
    8% Woman waited for her relationship to change
    8% Someone pressured woman not to have abortion
    6% Something changed after woman became pregnant
    6% Woman didn't know timing is important
    * 5% Woman didn't know she could get an abortion
    * 2% A fetal problem was diagnosed late in pregnancy
    * 11% Other.
    Only 2% were health related. Of the 11% we don't know.

    Conservatively, about 36 million of 40 million abortions since Roe v. Wade have been for convenience.

    Pretty sad.

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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I think we have all the New Yorkers we need, at present, if not way more than is beneficial.
    Point taken. Liberals in general and New Yorkers in particular are really irritating.



    p.s. Stop with the stupid annoying font.
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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I think we have all the New Yorkers we need, at present, if not way more than is beneficial.
    You sound as callous as Who's Chin Now and the other disgusting Chinese Commi's that have instituted the One Child Policy.

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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    In point of fact.......source

    She discussed her views on abortion rights and sexual equality in a 2009 New York Times interview, in which she said regarding abortion that "[t]he basic thing is that the government has no business making that choice for a woman."[20] One statement she made during the interview ("Frankly, I had thought at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don't want to have too many of.")[20]

    "[t]he basic thing is that the government has no business making that choice for a woman.
    That's the real point: I might think abortion is wrong, you might think so, too, but what right does the government have to impose those values on everyone else? It's much like making a law prohibiting adultery, fornication, or smoking pot. Such laws can't be enforced anyway.

    there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don't want to have too many of
    Meaning what? Poor people? As long as the government isn't making the choice, then no one is imposing population control on anyone else, and can't control specific populations. It is an individual choice, one that the individual has to live with afterward. Again, I'd think that a conservative would agree that it is the individual, and not the government, that should be in control.


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    On this we disagree.
    Really? I'd think that a conservative leaning guy like you would want to link responsibility to authority, at least as a general principle.
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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Women want to go to college instead of be mothers.
    Based on the demographics of the people seeking these abortions, I don't think they're choosing between having a baby and getting a degree in astrophysics.
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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    You hope. Some 60% of abortions are to us "poor" folk. Middle and upper class women account for the rest. Fact is american liberals/leftists have been very successful at creating a culture of death. Stalin, hitler, pol pot, kim il sung would approve, for that matter i'm guessing so would bin laden.
    Let me get this straight... Are you saying that Conservatives NEVER use death to create a fear atmosphere, or is this just another of your pointless political gotchas?

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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Based on the demographics of the people seeking these abortions, I don't think they're choosing between having a baby and getting a degree in astrophysics.
    It's how important abortion is to each individual women that counts, not general opinions or reasons for doing it by other parties.

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