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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyroh View Post
    nice, put finance first in your list of concerns regarding terminating a life. that's how you convince them it's ok.

    i'm curious how many libs would remain pro-abortion when they realize 90% of the time it's used to suppress minority populations.
    Why did you read a short list and assume that I put it in order of importance?
    I actually consider reliability of the mother (and father) to be most important (not necessarily biological) - if you're genuinely interested.
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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean_H View Post
    You can't force someone to carry a child. And, did you know that any cell could become a person through cloning, so by your logic every cell is a human being.
    No offense (which is what people say right before they offend you), but that's ridiculous.

    If you leave a fertilized egg alone, it will become a human being in all likelihood with no outside interaction.

    To clone a cell takes white-coated scientists with an intended purpose and lots of help.

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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Several reactions:

    1. That statistic is astounding and disheartening. 41% is a sickening rate of abortion, and shows just how messed up our society has become.
    Whaddya' mean "our" society?

    2. What makes you think those babies would grow up to be Democrats? Doesn't NY have a Republican mayor?
    Bloomberg is not a republican.


    3. What makes you think that most of those abortions weren't paid for by the government in one way or another?
    There's a thought. I could just be paying for fools to kill themselves off. Perhaps I should rethink my opposition to abortion.........for some.

    4. Just from a purely economic standpoint, an abortion is cheaper than a delivery, isn't it?
    ....and they say you can't put a price on a human life. We'll have to amend that to .......unless you're a liberal/leftist.
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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Wow, all I can say...I'm all for a woman's right to choose but 60% is outrageous. I'm thinking these abortions have an extremely strong correlation to poverty and income levels.
    I use a lot of satire and sarcasm so keep that in mind when reading my posts.

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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Whaddya' mean "our" society?
    Ours, as in American society. Abortion doesn't play a part in my world, and probably not in yours either, but it most certainly does in 21st. Century America.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Bloomberg is not a republican.
    I stand corrected.

    Does that make NY a Democrat city?


    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    There's a thought. I could just be paying for fools to kill themselves off. Perhaps I should rethink my opposition to abortion.........for some.
    Only if you could be in charge of deciding who gets aborted. The whole idea is individual choice.



    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    ....and they say you can't put a price on a human life. We'll have to amend that to .......unless you're a liberal/leftist.
    The comment was about how much all of the abortions would cost if paid for by the government. Imagine how much all of the deliveries would cost...

    Oh, no! That would be a death panel, wouldn't it? Sorry, Miss, but the government won't pay for your delivery. You'll have to have an abortion.
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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    I'm all for a woman's right to choose but 60% is outrageous. I'm thinking these abortions have an extremely strong correlation to poverty and income levels.
    A woman only aborts when her situation is intolerable or impossible, rarely because of frivolous reasons.

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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Wow, all I can say...I'm all for a woman's right to choose but 60% is outrageous. I'm thinking these abortions have an extremely strong correlation to poverty and income levels.
    You hope. Some 60% of abortions are to us "poor" folk. Middle and upper class women account for the rest. Fact is american liberals/leftists have been very successful at creating a culture of death. Stalin, hitler, pol pot, kim il sung would approve, for that matter i'm guessing so would bin laden.
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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Ours, as in American society. Abortion doesn't play a part in my world, and probably not in yours either, but it most certainly does in 21st. Century America.
    There are several "american" societies. Mine doesn't kill our young as frequently as yours.
    source

    Furthermore, the five states where John McCain received the highest percentage of votes in 2008 had an average abortion rate of 6.9. The five states where Barack Obama received the highest percentage of votes in 2008 had an average abortion rate of 22.6. Overall, it seems clear that politically conservative states have, on average, lower abortion rates, than their more liberal counterparts.


    I stand corrected.
    You're forgiven. In his political career bloomberg has been; a democrat, republican, and now an independent. I consider him something of a political opportunist.



    Does that make NY a Democrat city?
    It makes it a liberal city largely represented by the democratic party.

    Only if you could be in charge of deciding who gets aborted. The whole idea is individual choice.

    You mean "killed." Who gets to decide who gets "killed." You are aware of thomas hobbs and his social contract theory? When we give up the complete freedom of nature (such as the freedom to kill) in order to maintain social order we receive something in return (such as the freedom from being killed).

    .....In this condition, an individualís actions are bound only by his or her personal power, constrained by conscience, and outside resistance. From this common starting point, the various proponents of social contract theory attempt to explain, in different ways, why it is in an individualís rational self-interest to voluntarily give up the freedom one has in the state of nature in order to obtain the benefits of political order......


    The comment was about how much all of the abortions would cost if paid for by the government. Imagine how much all of the deliveries would cost...
    Shouldn't that be the responsibilty of those having the baby?


    Oh, no! That would be a death panel, wouldn't it? Sorry, Miss, but the government won't pay for your delivery. You'll have to have an abortion.
    Again, I believe the parents of the children should be responsible for their children not an all powerful central government or it's bureaucrats. Stop looking for more jobs the federal government cannot do well.
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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    A woman only aborts when her situation is intolerable or impossible, rarely because of frivolous reasons.

    ricksfolly
    I'm certain this belief makes you feel comfortable and, perhaps, blinds you to the numbers of young being killed. However, neither you nor I can know this for certain. So, why say it?
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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    There are several "american" societies. Mine doesn't kill our young as frequently as yours.
    source

    There may be fewer abortions in your state than in mine. No doubt there are more among Democrats than among Republicans, as the latter is more likely to be pro life.

    Hey! Maybe it's a plot by Republicans to.... No, that's just paranoia, much like the idea that abortion is being used to decrease the number of blacks.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    You're forgiven. In his political career bloomberg has been; a democrat, republican, and now an independent. I consider him something of a political opportunist.
    Political opportunist... isn't that redundant?


    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Shouldn't that be the responsibilty of those having the baby?
    Certainly, as should the decision of whether or not to carry the pregnancy to term. Authority to make decisions should be tied to responsibility.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Again, I believe the parents of the children should be responsible for their children not an all powerful central government or it's bureaucrats. Stop looking for more jobs the federal government cannot do well.
    Can't disagree with that one.
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