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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post


    Ya, teach our children proper family values, personal responsibility, and the difference between right and wrong, and psychological help for those women that view pregnancy as a disease, and the baby a tumor. That would reduce the perceived NEED for many abortions...
    No question about that at all, is there?

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    Ya, I'm just waiting to be told that my opinions don't matter on abortion because I'm of the same species that infects women with the disease of pregnancy.
    If there were no men, there would be no abortions... Now it's hard to argue against that one. Of course, the human race would be history pretty soon too, so there is a downside.
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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

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    Do you consider a fetus a human? If so, abortion is the taking of a life, and surely you do not support that.
    I find it amusing from a debate and logical thought viewpoint, but sad otherwise, that some folks have twisted their minds about when life begins. It's pretty simple. Conception anyone? When sperm meets egg and those cells start dividing.

    The other point is it is called an "abortion". Root word... abort. What is it they are aborting? Life. Innocent, voiceless human life. The most innocent of human life.

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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    I find it amusing from a debate and logical thought viewpoint, but sad otherwise, that some folks have twisted their minds about when life begins. It's pretty simple. Conception anyone? When sperm meets egg and those cells start dividing.

    The other point is it is called an "abortion". Root word... abort. What is it they are aborting? Life. Innocent, voiceless human life. The most innocent of human life.

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    And ya... if you have ANY religious inclinations whatsoever, you would understand why to not abort a child...

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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    I find it amusing from a debate and logical thought viewpoint, but sad otherwise, that some folks have twisted their minds about when life begins. It's pretty simple. Conception anyone? When sperm meets egg and those cells start dividing.

    The other point is it is called an "abortion". Root word... abort. What is it they are aborting? Life. Innocent, voiceless human life. The most innocent of human life.

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    Miosis and Mitosis are both cellular functions which depend on chemical stimulae. IT is not a consciencous decisions made on behalf of the cell who said "yes, I will grow now!"

    According to your definition a sperm alone is 'life'

    You know - the ancient Greeks defined life by movement - if it moved it was considered alive. That meant that magnets were alive among other things. . . are magnets alive?

    The "moment of life" or what it takes to declare something "alive" has been debated on for centuries - if after centuries of debate we can't decide on something then I'm not about to use it to shape any view I hold.

    As I bring up most frequently: it is not about where YOU think life begins or ends. It is about finances, health, emotional stability, reliability and overall quality of life.

    I don't care about quantity - I want the quality of prenatal care and all those many child-rearing years to be solid.
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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Do you consider a fetus a human? If so, abortion is the taking of a life, and surely you do not support that.
    It is just as I already said and you quoted.
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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    And ya... if you have ANY religious inclinations whatsoever, you would understand why to not abort a child...
    This is an inane blanket statement. There are those that believe in God and still support the right to an abortion. Or am I missing something?
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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    This is an inane blanket statement. There are those that believe in God and still support the right to an abortion. Or am I missing something?
    Well, to my knowledge, there is NOT ONE religion out there that says that ending a persons life is wrong, BUT you DO have the right to defend yourself.

    So, yes, it is a blanket statement, BUT, unless there's a pro-choice sect of some religion that I'm not familiar with, the simple truth is that killing is universally considered wrong, though you ARE within your rights to defend yourself. Any church that goes beyond that isn't really speaking from the point of view of the church, but their own twisting of their own teachings.

    That said, it wasn't my intention to shift this into a debate about religion.

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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    It is about finances, health, emotional stability, reliability and overall quality of life.
    nice, put finance first in your list of concerns regarding terminating a life. that's how you convince them it's ok.

    i'm curious how many libs would remain pro-abortion when they realize 90% of the time it's used to suppress minority populations.
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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyroh View Post
    nice, put finance first in your list of concerns regarding terminating a life. that's how you convince them it's ok.

    i'm curious how many libs would remain pro-abortion when they realize 90% of the time it's used to suppress minority populations.
    Who do you think is using it? It still is the individual's choice, isn't it?

    Or do we have mandated abortions now?
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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Hey! This is a good thing. It's better than last year.

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