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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    1 - So if all those babies were born then what?

    Born to 49.5 million mothers who didn't want them - fathers who were likely not even around except for the fun part . . . 2 - who's going to raise them? 3 - How would their lives be?
    1 - when they get to working age that would reduce the ratio of retirees leaving the workforce to those IN the workforce having to pay into the retirement of their elders... for starters.

    2 - First, like it or not, there are a portion of abortions that are performed on women that simply do not want to take the responsibility of being a mother... to these women adoption is a better option. Otherwise, well, once humans become a disposable commodity society is in trouble, so it's not so much important WHO raises these children, but that these unborn children are at least given a chance.

    Or we could always go with the Chinese option of forced abortions, forced sterilizations, etc...

    3 - Can only speculate. The bigger issue though is the health of the women that get abortions... because if there is a flaw with the unborn baby, a woman's body can recognize the problem and then will have a miscarriage, when that happens the hormones adjust and cope. Different story if the baby is ripped out of the womb... the body doesn't know how to cope with there not being a baby to grow in the belly any longer... and well, if you get an abortion you might as well start drinking and smoking because your chance of getting cancer has increased drastically.

    Like I always say - unless we fix *all those other problems* abortion is an accepted although unpleasant fact of life.

    Just like war, suicide and divorce.
    Ya.. let's have a war on pregnancies... why limit it to first term abortions?? You should be able to abort the child up to 5 years old. It's an 'unpleasant fact of life' that we kill our babies... so why stop while they are in the womb???

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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    So 200 years ago people were more responsible and less callous?

    Haha! If you know anything about history you'd know that's a steaming pile.
    What percentage of people in the United States, if you asked them if they wished they were aborted, would say "yes"?

    Nowhere in your argument do I hear consideration of what these babies would want given the choice. "Pro-choice" doesn't include their choice.

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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    What percentage of people in the United States, if you asked them if they wished they were aborted, would say "yes"?

    Nowhere in your argument do I hear consideration of what these babies would want given the choice. "Pro-choice" doesn't include their choice.
    No, it doesn't include their choice. Why should it?
    They aren't on their own and making their own choices until much later in life - up until then they're the charge of someone else.

    Until my kids grow up and move out - their lives are 100% my decision.
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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Until my kids grow up and move out - their lives are 100% my decision.
    What if they are 24 and still living in the house?

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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    All this tells me is that women were forced to abort for a variety of good reasons, nothing to do with partisan politics.

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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    What if they are 24 and still living in the house?
    Why would a 24 year old be living at home?
    Legally - they can live on their own by the age of 18. . . sooner if they are capable and have my consent or emancipate their selves.

    My purpose as a parent is to ready them for their own future - and in order to do that efficiently I must parent well, ensure an adequate education - and an essential step in this is getting the little fledglings to leave the nest.

    I fail to see how that relates to the subject in question, though.

    But what is slightly related is the legally-upheld theory that while they ARE underage and living at home, on my health insurance and so on - 100% my charge - that they have the right to conceive, pursue abortion, and keep it from me. . . which I disagree with. But we've debated that elsewhere.
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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    So 200 years ago people were more responsible and less callous?

    Haha! If you know anything about history you'd know that's a steaming pile.
    I don't know when we have killed in excess of a million innocent people a year over a forty year period for convenience. Of course it isn't callous if you don't find killing offensive. Which bring me back to my point; it's callous and irresponsible. People slough it off with crap like coy remarks about 200-years ago and nothing more to support their case.

    If you can find me a time when we killed more than a million a year for convenience, then you might have a point. But you cannot.

    And of course, people rarely get fed information by the journOlists against snuffing more than a million a year. Too bad we don't get an abortion count like we got the Iraq War Deaths Count every damn night it seemed. Something like:

    In the first 10-days of 2011,
    we have had in excess of 30,000 abortions already.

    Not callous?

    Using a subset of the same data, STAKES researchers had previously reported that the risk of death from suicide within the year of an abortion was more than seven times higher than the risk of suicide within a year of childbirth.

    Abortion Four Times Deadlier Than Childbirth
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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Please, you know Planned Parenthood is pleased. Abortions are a cash cow for them.
    The moral high ground is just for you.
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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    I'd be interested to see at what point during pregnancy these abortions took place. I do think it's wrong to force a woman to carry a child that isn't even viable yet. Not choosing to carry a small group of cells isn't exactly the same thing as murder.
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    Re: In New York City, 41% of pregnancies aborted

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean_H View Post
    I'd be interested to see at what point during pregnancy these abortions took place. I do think it's wrong to force a woman to carry a child that isn't even viable yet. Not choosing to carry a small group of cells isn't exactly the same thing as murder.
    It is the same to most anti-abortionists. Trust me, you'll never convince them otherwise.
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