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    Re: Could Senate Dems Nuke the Filibuster?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I have an even better idea: let's stop trying to mirror what the goddamn Europeans are doing. They've had a thousand years to get it right and still can't. That's the reason that United States even exists, because the Europeans were cocking up the works.
    Number 1: I'm not the one who is defending the filibuster in case one political party controls the White House, the House of Representatives, and the Senate.

    Number 2: The current political process that the UK Parliament has was vastly different from the British Parliament that the American colonies revolted against.

    Number 3: The U.S. system isn't perfect either - if it was, we wouldn't be arguing about this type of thing.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Could Senate Dems Nuke the Filibuster?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Number 1: I'm not the one who is defending the filibuster in case one political party controls the White House, the House of Representatives, and the Senate.

    Number 2: The current political process that the UK Parliament has was vastly different from the British Parliament that the American colonies revolted against.

    Number 3: The U.S. system isn't perfect either - if it was, we wouldn't be arguing about this type of thing.
    The Europeans system is far less perfect.

    It's like this, the real go-gitters in Europe all came to America. That's why Americans are superior to every other country in the world.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Could Senate Dems Nuke the Filibuster?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Perhaps it would be best if you researched the answer to your question instead of waiting for me to post something you can dismiss, that way you get to understand it from them, rather then my repeat of it.
    Oh, I have researched the answer. And my research concludes that the Founding Fathers didn't inherently cherish the procedure of filibusters. Which makes me wonder why you even mention the Founding Fathers with regards to the filibuster.



    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    You are so close to answering your own question, and you don't even realize it! The HOUSE is allowed to be quicker, by design.
    That is certainly the case. However, that does not defend the Senate's right to delay the passage of legislation using the filibuster.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    And that's exactly why the Filibuster is needed, and should never be done away with.
    So please explain to everyone here why it's a good thing for one Senator to be able to hold the rest of the Senate hostage.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Could Senate Dems Nuke the Filibuster?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Europeans system is far less perfect.

    It's like this, the real go-gitters in Europe all came to America. That's why Americans are superior to every other country in the world.
    That is debatable. And while European systems may be far less perfect you've 1) admitted that the America system is not perfect either and 2) you have yet to explain how importing any procedure from Europe would inherently make the American system less perfect.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Could Senate Dems Nuke the Filibuster?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    So please explain to everyone here why it's a good thing for one Senator to be able to hold the rest of the Senate hostage.
    ask the millions of americans who voted on tsunami tuesday

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    Re: Could Senate Dems Nuke the Filibuster?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    That is debatable. And while European systems may be far less perfect you've 1) admitted that the America system is not perfect either and 2) you have yet to explain how importing any procedure from Europe would inherently make the American system less perfect.
    How many countries in Europe are cocked up 9 ways from Sunday, right now?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Could Senate Dems Nuke the Filibuster?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    ask the millions of americans who voted on tsunami tuesday
    If that's really your belief, then a more exact thing to do would be to determine the issue of the filibuster via referendum.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Could Senate Dems Nuke the Filibuster?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How many countries in Europe are cocked up 9 ways from Sunday, right now?
    Okay.

    So Europeans have popular elections in their countries.

    So does that mean you want to get rid of popular elections here in the U.S.?
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Could Senate Dems Nuke the Filibuster?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Okay.

    So Europeans have popular elections in their countries.

    So does that mean you want to get rid of popular elections here in the U.S.?
    Gee, where did that come from?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Could Senate Dems Nuke the Filibuster?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    a more exact thing to do would be to determine the issue of the filibuster via referendum.
    i don't deal in fantasies

    the voters were clear---they LIKED the filibusterers

    sorry

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