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Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye


Just so you know, the OP is referring halogen bulbs not CFL's. There is no mercury in halogen bulbs.

An even better deal is the LED light bulb which is $18 not the $60 you stated and last 50,000 hrs. However, this purchase requires long term thinking, a real obstacle for many Americans:
http://www.homedepot.com/Electrical-Light-Bulbs-LED/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xkwZbm79/R-202188260/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053
 
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Freedom is a bitch. :shrug:


I'd rather not wear a seatbelt, and spend more money of old lightbulbs than be told at gunpoint, fine and imprisonment, I can't do such things. Statism vs. liberty. we see where you stand.

This situation is different from seatbelt laws in one major way. nobody is preventing the consumer form using 100 watt bulbs in this case, while seatbelt laws require the individual to wear it or run the risk of fines.

With these lightbulbs, the company is being regulated, not th epeople.

A person would still be free to make their own inefficient 100-watt bulbs and use them in their house if they desire to. No rights are being infringed in this case.

Nobody is kept from making their own choices.
 
This situation is different from seatbelt laws in one major way. nobody is preventing the consumer form using 100 watt bulbs in this case, while seatbelt laws require the individual to wear it or run the risk of fines.

With these lightbulbs, the company is being regulated, not th epeople.

A person would still be free to make their own inefficient 100-watt bulbs and use them in their house if they desire to. No rights are being infringed in this case.

Nobody is kept from making their own choices.

If the government regulates those companies out of business, then the right of the people to chose is being directly effected.
 
If the government regulates those companies out of business, then the right of the people to chose is being directly effected.

No it's not. they still can build their own lightbulbs. they choos enot to. Personal responsibility... it's a bitch.
 
This situation is different from seatbelt laws in one major way. nobody is preventing the consumer form using 100 watt bulbs in this case, while seatbelt laws require the individual to wear it or run the risk of fines.[/qutoe]


Not yet. In a country where we can ban trans fats, cigarettes, salt, etc.... what makes you think this is a stretch?


With these lightbulbs, the company is being regulated, not th epeople.


So my cfl jaundice lights are gonna cost me even more? :lol:



A person would still be free to make their own inefficient 100-watt bulbs and use them in their house if they desire to. No rights are being infringed in this case.

Nobody is kept from making their own choices.


Actually aren't we moving towards meters the government controls to set your house temps and energy use. didn't I read that somewhere? :ssst:
 
Right here,

And its still a better deal that petroleum if you consider the cost of the ME wars necessary to protect the flow of oil to this country which more than doubles the price at the pump.
 
No, the lucky brand jeans you are wearing that you got for $20 are not the same as the $100 pair, I am wearing, even though all the labels are the same. mine will last a couple years, yours, a few months.

edit to add, they have a slight UPC label change. that's all.


The companies sell cheaper versions of thier products to big box stores to dupe you the consumer into thinking you are getting a deal.


I won't even get into thier "meat and fish" departments and the havoc they reek on the ecosystem and your health. :lol:

I can attest to some of this. If you go to something like an outlet mall they generally sell stuff made with lesser qality material or just plain cheaper material in general than what you can find at the actual store or a real mall. This is a very common practice with clothes.

With that said, I honestly haven't found any difference in quality between my 20 dollar jeans from the outlet mall and my 100 dollar jeans. Unless you get some crap brand they generally all hold up well.

As far as the other products, if they have the same UPC, they are the same. With electronics if you're saving a ton then you're generally buying cheaper versions made specifically for that one store to sell or you're buying refurbished products.

I agree with Utah. When I did construction I didn't buy my power tools from walmart or harbor freight, but then again not everybody really needs to spend 250 on a cordless drill if they don't use it to earn money.
 
Yeah, that makes sense. :lamo

If someone is hellbent on owning a 100 watt incandecent lightbulb despite the fact they can get the same light form a lower wattage bulb, they are still legally allowed to do so, provided they put forth the effort to make it. Like I said, personal responsibility is a bitch.

It's not like there exists a right to buy whatever the hell you want. It has to be available at the stores. If it isn't, tough titty. Make it yourself or get over it.

If I really wanted something that I could not purchase, I'd make it. But of course, that's ebcause I don't have teh same entitlment mentality that most peopel have. I know that when you want somehting, you sometimes have to put forth a little effort to have it. i.e. taking personal responsibility.
 
And its still a better deal that petroleum if you consider the cost of the ME wars necessary to protect the flow of oil to this country which more than doubles the price at the pump.

Maybe shutting down deomestic oil production was a bad idea?
 
Maybe shutting down deomestic oil production was a bad idea?

No one shut down US oil production. We passed peak oil in this country 40 years ago.
 
I'm trying to tell you friend, the wranglers, and the carharts will cost you the same and last 10 times as long. :lol:

The costco basic jeans are a lot cheaper than $20 a pair....$14 IIRC.
Last cruise to mexico, I noticed the same jeans in one of their big box stores were under $10...after exchange rate difference..
 
I can attest to some of this. If you go to something like an outlet mall they generally sell stuff made with lesser qality material or just plain cheaper material in general than what you can find at the actual store or a real mall. This is a very common practice with clothes.

With that said, I honestly haven't found any difference in quality between my 20 dollar jeans from the outlet mall and my 100 dollar jeans. Unless you get some crap brand they generally all hold up well.

As far as the other products, if they have the same UPC, they are the same. With electronics if you're saving a ton then you're generally buying cheaper versions made specifically for that one store to sell or you're buying refurbished products.

I agree with Utah. When I did construction I didn't buy my power tools from walmart or harbor freight, but then again not everybody really needs to spend 250 on a cordless drill if they don't use it to earn money.

Be on the lookout for some DeWalt tools in a black and yellow canvas bag, stolen in AZ in broad daylight when I left my garage door open while I took a nap.....:(
 
Obama didn't shut down production?

LOL! Do you mean the very short temporary ban on deep water drilling after we had just had a failure with multiple unnecessary deaths of a deep water drilling rig????

How about the off-shore drilling Obama approved that had not been approved during the Bush Adminsitration?

"President Obama's decision, announced Wednesday, to approve new oil and gas drilling off U.S. coasts for the first time in decades reflects a high-stakes calculation by the White House: Splitting the difference on the most contentious energy issues could help secure a bipartisan climate deal this year. "
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/31/AR2010033100024.html
 
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I think you have been hitting that tiki bar a little hard with those conspiracies. :lol:

Don't know what you are referring to. Are you suggesting we did not pass peak oik in the US in 1970? If so, please list the years we produced more oil than we consumed since 1970.

Thanks!
 
This situation is different from seatbelt laws in one major way. nobody is preventing the consumer form using 100 watt bulbs in this case, while seatbelt laws require the individual to wear it or run the risk of fines.

With these lightbulbs, the company is being regulated, not th epeople.

A person would still be free to make their own inefficient 100-watt bulbs and use them in their house if they desire to. No rights are being infringed in this case.

Nobody is kept from making their own choices.

with the glaring exception of me to sell the 100Watt light bulbs i'm making...
 
Don't know what you are referring to. Are you suggesting we did not pass peak oik in the US in 1970? If so, please list the years we produced more oil than we consumed since 1970.

Thanks!

you're confusing your concepts. peak oil is an idea of when the globe hits it's peak oil production due to physical limitation. the US unilaterally slowed down oil production through legislation in the 70s. peak oil is definitely a real thing (so is peak water or peak iron for that matter). the question is when will we hit it. since there is no free market allowing people to discover and recover oil as they see fit, it's impossible to tell when or if that will ever happen.
 
with the glaring exception of me to sell the 100Watt light bulbs i'm making...

I suppose you want your right to hunt whales for heating oil back, too?
Time to come to the 21st century :)

Incandescent bulbs are tiny, crappy space heaters that happen to produce some light as a byproduct. Cumulatively, they create an enormous load on our powergrid and contribute a lot of unnecessary pollution. Time to upgrade.
 
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define totalitarianism...

According to Webster's, "the political concept that the citizen should be totally subject to an absolute state authority "

Now where on Earth did you get the silly idea that regulating commerce is all that is needed for totalitarianism?
 
According to Webster's, "the political concept that the citizen should be totally subject to an absolute state authority "

Now where on Earth did you get the silly idea that regulating commerce is all that is needed for totalitarianism?

Every nation on the planet is, apparently, totalitarian!
 
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