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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    I am not clear as to why I am supposed to be outraged.
    Regulation like this is the foundation for things to come, such as government controlled thermostats and requiring registration of appliances.

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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Regulation like this is the foundation for things to come, such as government controlled thermostats and requiring registration of appliances.
    i think you have to prove that.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Regulation like this is the foundation for things to come, such as government controlled thermostats and requiring registration of appliances.
    Where else have I heard this............

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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Regulation like this is the foundation for things to come, such as government controlled thermostats and requiring registration of appliances.
    It's regulation on what can be produced, not on what you can use in your home which is normal.
    "Myths and legends die hard in America. We love them for the extra dimension they provide, the illusion of near-infinite possibility to erase the narrow confines of most men's reality. Weird heroes and mould-breaking champions exist as living proof to those who need it that the tyranny of 'the rat race' is not yet final." - Hunter S. Thompson

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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean_H View Post
    It's regulation on what can be produced, not on what you can use in your home which is normal.


    They regulate what can be made, thus what you can buy, thus what is in your home....

    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    ...They regulate what can be made...
    That's not true. You could still make it yourself.
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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post


    They regulate what can be made, thus what you can buy, thus what is in your home....

    Lots of things can't be produced: certain types of paints, some products have effeciency requirements. Even cars need to be inspected for emissions.
    "Myths and legends die hard in America. We love them for the extra dimension they provide, the illusion of near-infinite possibility to erase the narrow confines of most men's reality. Weird heroes and mould-breaking champions exist as living proof to those who need it that the tyranny of 'the rat race' is not yet final." - Hunter S. Thompson

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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Unnecessary totalitarianism. Though it is perfectly logical.

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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Where else have I heard this............
    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i think you have to prove that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sean_H View Post
    It's regulation on what can be produced, not on what you can use in your home which is normal.
    2008 Building Energy Efficiency Standards for Residential and Nonresidential Buildings.
    California Energy Commission.


    http://www.energy.ca.gov/2007publica...-017-45DAY.PDF

    Page 60-64, edited for relevant portions by me:
    Section 112(c)

    (c) Thermostats6. All unitary heating and/or cooling systems including heat pumps that are not controlled by a central energy management control system (EMCS) shall have a Programmable Communicating Thermostat (PCT) that is certified by the manufacturer to the Energy Commission to meet the requirements of Subsections 112(c)(1) and 112(c)(2) below:

    1. Setback Capabilities. All PCTs shall have a clock mechanism that allows the building occupant to program the temperature set points for at least four periods within 24 hours. Thermostats for heat pumps shall meet the requirements of Section 112(b).

    2. Communicating Capabilities. All PCTs shall be distributed with a non-removable Radio Data System (RDS) communications device that is compatible with the default statewide DR communications system, which can be used by utilities to send price and emergency signals. PCTs shall be capable of receiving and responding to the signals indicating price and emergency events as follows.

    B. Emergency Events. Upon receiving an emergency signal, the PCT shall respond to commands contained in the emergency signal, including changing the set-point by any number of degrees or to a specific temperature set-point. The PCT shall not allow customer changes to thermostat settings during emergency events.
    Last edited by Jerry; 01-12-11 at 02:21 AM.

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    Re: Kiss your 100-watt lightbulb goodbye

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    2008 Building Energy Efficiency Standards for Residential and Nonresidential Buildings.
    California Energy Commission.


    http://www.energy.ca.gov/2007publica...-017-45DAY.PDF

    Page 60-64, edited for relevant portions by me:
    All utilities have the authority to discontinue service during an emergency. This is nothing new.
    Treat the earth well: it was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your children. We do not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrow it from our Children. ~ Ancient American Indian Proverb

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